My editor has read the first (rough) draft of Book 9, and he loves it. I'm on the home stretch now — the end is in sight (in more ways than one). Over the next two or three weeks my head is going to be down and I'm going to working hard to fill in those gaps, to link up those scenes, to write those missing chapters. Right now I'm at 100,000 words. The end result will PROBABLY be about 120,000 words — maybe just slightly shorter than KOTW. Of course, in order to finish the book, I'll need to pick a winner of the Who Gets to Die competition we ran ages ago, and then that lucky reader will get to meet their grisly end...
And because I, and therefore WE, are on the home stretch, this blog is going to be choc-a-block with announcements and reveals over the next few weeks. By the end of THIS week, for example, we'll be revealing the cover for the Armageddon-Outta-Here short story collection. Next week, we'll reveal the full, WRAPAROUND cover for the collection (it's awesome). And the week after that? We'll be revealing the title for the ninth, and last, Skulduggery Pleasant book.
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Msd and may not be back for roughly an hour until im in Spanish Culture
@Zaf: Nope. May Day bank holiday. XD
And - good luck. :/ :/
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@Zaf: Okay. :(
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STARRRRRRR!!!! *tacklehugs*
Okay, I gotta go now...
Night guys! <3
Hi/Fours, Zaiya! :) :(
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I'm not very good at procrastinating.
I don't want to start doing anything, because I need to do work, but I don't want to do work, so I end up sitting there doing absolutely nothing. :P
The forces acting upon me are balanced. *nods*
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Lying and staring into space is rather nice, actually.
Damn. O_O
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SOMEONE NEEDS TO HAVE WORDS WITH MY WRITING IT MADE ME CRY
HOW IS THAT EVEN A THING
I NEVER CRY AT MY OWN WRITING
I'mma blame TLBYE and AMIW.
@Mushroom: Do you not?
My friend cries at her writing all the time. She's just sitting there crying her eyes out whilst she's typing. :P
Hi!
Wbd. Meant to be writing an essay. Doing word art.
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I sit and laugh every time I murder someone. Or just don't care. Usually the latter.
BUT I JUST SAT CRYING AT THE ENDING OF IMPERFECT AND IT'S NOT EVEN THAT EMOTIONAL ???
Hello! I should be doing an essay also!
@Mushroom: Yay! We can be procrastinating together! :)
Really?
Ah. I'm empathic and nice and cry all the time, so . . . yeah. :P
My friend's little sister asked me how I could be so weak as to cry that much. :P
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I don't cry ALL the time.
Things are just good at making me cry.
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WOOOOOOO! I think I have a long Philosophy essay and maybe something for Literature? I don't know anymore...
You're just really lovely! I'm just... cruel. And horrible. To my characters, at least. ^_^
@Mushroom:
Of course I'm lovely, I'm a bubble. :)
I'm not really that nice. :/
On my friend's card that I made her, I wrote on the front, in word art "Amount of niceness doesn't affect awesomeness any more than amount of height does."
And that was true. :)
Niceness is not a measure of awesomeness.
Niceness can be a contributing factor towards awesomeness, but there are plenty of downsides to it, such as lack of honesty and lack of being able to stand up for, um, pretty much anything, and you can easily be very awesome without it.
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((It was such a cool card though.
I then wrote "You're awesome :)" and "Trust me, I'm a bubble."
It was so cool.
It was even more cool than I am modest, if that is able to be believed. XD))
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Star, I adore you. You're phenomenal.
Niceness is both a vice and a virtue. Most things are though, I believe. Like, I'm one of the most stubborn people you could ever meet and, sure that's often negative, but it also means I'm not one to give up easily. You tell me I'll never be a successful author? I'll prove you wrong. You tell me I can't do something? Yeah, not gonna happen; I'll prove you wrong. You tell me something is a hopeless case and I will keep at it until it's not. I will do everything I can to come out on top. Because I'm selfish and stubborn and proud. But that's not necessarily bad. ^_^
@Mushroom: I AGREE SO MUCH OHMYGOSH THANK YOU. :) :) :)
Yes.
*nods*
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR THE PAST HOWEVER MUCH SO LONG THANK YOU.
There are no, like, good traits and flaws, there are only traits, and there are both good and bad sides to those traits. And you can't have the good without the bad, as you need both to have the trait. And if you didn't have any traits, you would just, like, no be a person.
I'm too indecisive and objective to be very stubborn. XD
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AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHGHH
In class one girl did When A Good Man Goes To War from Doctor Who...
MATT SMITH ON THE SCREEN AND IT ENDED WITH AMY HOLDING BABY RIVER!!!!!
DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND MY FEELS EXPLODED?!?!?!?!
Msd class starting
@Mushroom: I UNDERSTAND FEELS EXPLOSIONS VERY WELL D:
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I put my entire class in silence. They all were stunned
I did Facade. I think they died
@Zaf: YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! :) :) :) *hugs*
Glad it went well. :)
It was an epic song, too, so. :)
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DO NOT DISCUSS PERSONS WITH ME STAR! I PROMISE YOU WILL REGRET IT.
philosophymeltedmybrainandthenmouldeditbackintosomethingnewanditsweird.
Speaking of persons... wbd. Going to actually write this essay.
@Mushroom: My school's college (which I'm probably going to, because you know, it's outstanding, has the best results in the area, is ten minutes down the road) doesn't offer philosophy.
. . .
Eh.
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*and is
Sorry . . . I fiddled about with word choice there and the and must have got forgotten. :/
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BUT PHILOSOPHY IS INCREDIBLE AND YOU'D BE SO GOOD AT IT ;-;
You know what I hate?
When you are writing a sentence saying something, but you want to say about three small things leading off it and you're trying to phrase it so you can fit them all in this sentence but they won't fit, and you can't stop the sentence to talk about any of them, because then you would be leading off your point and you don't know how to redirect the lava back onto the path after that (reference to a rant about ranting). :P
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@Mushroom: I KNOW. :(
My mum said, however, that taking philosophy wouldn't be a good idea because it's something you can do in your free time.
I believe that philosophy, to me, would be like - well, if I were a Directioner, it would be like spending a year doing lessons on One Direction.
Yeah.
O_O
Just -
urgh.
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Not a year.
*frowns*
No, I needed to rephrase that better.
Never mind . . .
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I think I am learning how to deal with trying to direct my lava better.
I think I'm learning. :P
There's so many traffic lights, though. With this many stops, it's never going to go anywhere, and it's not exactly like I can just go around the city.
Well, I could, but I would have to take minor roads, and they are too minor and would not be worth as much.
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PHILOSOPHY IS SO UNBELIEVABLY HIGHLY THOUGHT OF THOUGH IT'S NOT EVEN FUNNY! IF YOU'VE GOT AN A-LEVEL IN PHILOSOPHY IT'S, LIKE, HOLY SHIT SORTA THING IT'S AMAZING
@Mushroom: I will bear that in mind.
*puts it in a corner with the other bears*
*frowns as I realised they're trying to eat each other*
*I suppose there must not be much food in my head, it being rather empty and all*
*hurriedly puts philosophy in a better corner*
*this one is shiny*
*like a shiny corner*
*it might be too shiny, though*
*how can anything be too shiny?*
*well, by being too shiny, clearly*
*oh, dear*
*I don't even know what I'm doing anymore*
*hides behind philosophy looking innocent*
*not that I need to look innocent*
*because I'm hiding*
*stops looking innocent*
Philosophy: *moves*
Me: *is left sitting there not looking innocent*
Random on-looker: *gasps*
LOOK!
SHE DOESN'T LOOK INNOCENT!
SHE MUST BE GUILTY!
MAYBE SHE'S THE ONE EATING ALL THE BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mob: *run at me screaming with pitchforks*
Me: Um.
*stands there indecisively*
Mob: *kills me*
Oh.
That was easy.
Me: *is dead*
. . .
*doesn't really know what to do now*
*there's not much to do when you're dead*
*um*
*posts comment*
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Scrap that - my lava is not being very controllable.
It isn't NOT being controllable.
It just isn't going where I want to go.
Which is maybe because I don't know where I want it to go.
I suppose I just want to follow it.
But I won't let it have free rein, because I'm containing it in this road and directing it, so it's not really going anywhere and I'm not going anywhere and we're just sort of stuck.
DID I NOT TELL YOU HOW STUPID IT WAS TO TRY AND CIVILISE LAVA?
URGH.
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MAYBE WE CAN FOLLOW THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS!
Me: *jumps behind the traffic lights, dragging lava with me*
Traffic lights: *stand still*
Us: *stand still*
Me: Oh.
Well.
That went well . . .
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SORRY FOR VANISHING I WROTE MY ESSAYS!
I did it timed and everything. Now my arm sort of aches. Next Friday - May 16th - my arm is going to kill me... Seven essays in one day... ;-;
Four is bad enough, but SEVEN?! Uggggggggh.
@Mushroom: . . .
That SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS. D:
I can't write essays very well. :P
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I'm going to be distant - I'm revising Philosophy. :)
*dies*
Okay, Mushroom. :)
Hey, Zaf! :)
For which reason are you dying?
I die frequently for emotional feels-y reasons. I feel like that "Die! (Die!)/Die again! (Die!)" part of the bridge in Nightmare by Avenged Sevenfold. :P
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Hey Dragona! :)
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Hey Star! How are you?
Um.
Somewhere in between annoyed and upset and frustrated and angry, but actually none of them; however, I know that emotion is probably an overreaction, which intensifies it and redirects some of it towards myself; however, I'm also rather calm, so the emotions are dulled somewhat and therefore aren't overpowering.
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You?
(yes, got distracted with description. XD)
(I get distracted by thinking that I shouldn't be getting distracted.)
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Lol.
I'm amused.
It's not very amusing when it's you suffering for your poor attention span.
Well, it is kind of amusing.
But -
well. :P
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I'm amused because I was playing Battlefield 4 and I joined a game as a Commander - meaning I'd be able to give people on my team orders like "You should go and attack this" etc. And then the more points I earned, the more things I could deploy - like gunships, air drops, etc.
So I was watching the map and there was this one squad just sat at the side doing nothing. So I gave them an order to go and attack an objective.
Little did I know, the squad were talking to each other. So when I gave them orders, I heard this American guy go, "Urgh. Stupid guy giving me an order"
So I gave him another order.
Then he complained again.
So I gave him another order.
And he complained again.
So I started spamming orders.
And he got VERY annoyed.
So... I gave him a supply crate. Which I made land on his head. It killed him. And he was very annoyed and quit the game.
Mwhahahahahahahahahaha.
LOL!
*laughs*
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I am such an awesome Commander.
You know, they are, metaphorically (THIS IS A METAPHOR), testing me on my ability to draw.
I can draw perfectly well.
So technically, they should think I'm good at drawing.
But all my pencils and pens and whatnot are all really shit, so although I try to tap into my ability that I know I have, it all gets mangled on the outputting and it doesn't really work, and then they think I can't draw.
-_-
Not that I'm drawing anything useful by sitting here finding different words to draw in my free time.
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You are. XD
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Okay. :)
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So. Much. Food.
@Zaf: ?
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... I got so fed up of revising I began organising my picture folders... Oops.
:P
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Brb again.
STAR IS AWESOME AND REALLY GREAT AND AMAZING AND EXTRAORDINARY AND NOT PATHETIC AT ALL
OH LANTERN
*hugs*
NO
THAT'S /CHEATING/
*eats her*
*but only a little bit*
*maybe I only ate your hair*
*maybe I was pretending to be Adra*
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WELL IF I SAID SOMETHING ON EMAIL YOU'D SAY IT DIDN'T COUNT BECAUSE YOU ENDED THE STORY.
SO IT WASN'T CHEATING. IT WAS ADAPTING TO A NEW SITUATION.
AND YOU AND ADRA BOTH NEED TO LEARN THAT I AM NOT EDIBLE, K?
Oh, I know that. I was pretending to be Adra, so I was pretending not to know that.
WELL -
I SHALL BEGIN WRITING A SEQUEL TO THE STORY!
*writes a sequel*
Once upon a time, that was a Fabi called Fabi, and she was Fabinesslyness, and she was awesome and stuffs, and there was a Star, and she was, um, a Star, and she was rather pathetic, really, which was kind of good in a way but also kind of bad, and the Fabi wasn't a liar, but she was sometimes mistaken, and sometimes, she could mistake things and then there would be Mistakes, but Star didn't mind because she was still awesome anyway, and Star loved Fabi, and Fabi loved Star so she told her she wasn't pathetic, so Star told her this was a Mistake, and Fabi listened, because she always listens to Star because she loves Star, and she realises that Star was Correct, because Star is Always Correct because Star is A Bubble and Cool Like That, and so then Fabi acknowledged that Star was pathetic as well as awesome, and then they hugged each other and lived happily ever after and all that stuff.
The end.
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*Fabi pretended to agree because she knew Star was extremely stubborn, but she also knew that Star was Always Correct and A Bubble and Cool Like That, so she could hardly be pathetic. Still, though, she pretended to agree, and plotted craftily to make Star acknowledge her own awesomeness and un-patheticness.
*Star is awesome (due to being a bubble) and pathetic (due to being pathetic), because she's cool like that
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*she also couldn't be as awesome if she wasn't pathetic, so her patheticness is Needed
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Full Definition of PATHETIC
1
: having a capacity to move one to either compassionate or contemptuous pity
2
: marked by sorrow or melancholy : sad
3
: pitifully inferior or inadequate
[None of these especially describe Star, thank you very much]
*mutters* Hunter said I'm pathetic, though.
I'm pathetic by my definition.
But it's okay. :)
I wouldn't be me if I wasn't.
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Well, I haven't met Hunter, but I doubt he's an expert on patheticness, and if he is, he's hardly one to talk.
So there.
And what is your definition?
Oh, dear.
*curls up in a ball*
I hate definitions.
Oh. Dinner.
SAVED!
*will answer you when I come back :P*
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Well FINE then, Star.
Hey Dragona!
WB, Dragona! :)
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Sorry I poofed. How is everyone?
Okay?
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And I poofed again. Is anyone still here?
Sort of.
I'm going to be even distanter, though, because I think I'm going to start drawing.
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Ah drawing. Something I can only do on the computer.
Blogger Star Inkbright/Hunter/Ez said...
So I watched the Mortal Instruments movie, and it was crap, and . . . yeah!
Jace wasn't at all Jace-like, and Valentine wasn't Valentine-like, and Simon wasn't THAT Simon-like, and Isabelle wasn't Isabelle-like, and Magnus wasn't Magnus-like, but it was Jace and Valentine that annoyed me the most, really.
They just didn't have all the little bits of character development.
It was like -
Jace was just kind of following Clary around at the beginning, and I was just like, uh, no. Jace would be taking some kind of control over the situation. Even if he wasn't, he would still be being involved and acting like he was. He wouldn't just kind of follow her around.
And that was the thing that started off my complaining and then I couldn't STOP ohmygosh. :P
And it's like -
It's like, Jace realised that Valentine was his father, and then he started trying to kill him.
Uh
no
I made a metaphor for this, yeah. I said that Jace was all broken into pieces, like he was a mirror, and he was surrounded by all these broken shards, and in the middle, there was this clear, unbroken, perfect piece of glass, and that piece of glass was his father. Jace loves his father. He idolises him. In his broken world, his father, in his memories, is the one piece of glass that is perfect.
And he doesn't want to smash that glass. It's the only piece of glass he has left, and he doesn't want it gone. That's why, in the book, it was so hard for him to believe that his father was bad. He was just clinging onto that piece of glass so hard, and it took effort to smash it, and he only smashed it because he didn't want lots of smaller pieces of glass smashed.
He still loves his father, Jace. Like The Final Empire says, just because someone you love betrays you doesn't mean you stop loving them. He still loves his father, and he wouldn't just start attacking him. Especially not when he hasn't seen him in years.
And Valentine. Valentine would not have attacked Jace. Well, in self-defence, he would be fighting him, but Valentine still wants to use Jace, still wants him on his side, and he wouldn't want to alienate him.
And that's it. Valentine was too emotional. Valentine is manipulative.
Also, he isn't that obviously evil. He believes he has a higher purpose. He believes he's doing the correct thing.
Did we see much of that?
Anyway. Terrible movie. XD
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Oh god Star!! Your metaphor is brilliant! Really! And I'm so glad I didn't watch the film! :D
Not here, sorry!
Bye!!
@Mithria: Really? O_O
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) *hugs*
It wasn't that bad. I think that once I start complaining, I can't stop, so I was probably looking for things to complain about, but . . . :P
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Fours! :(
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Hullo! How are you all? Anybody here?
Hello!
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Hey Rhydian! How are you?
Hello Starry! How are you?
hey Dragona! I'm good thanks, how are you?
I'm fine, you?
Brb.
Sorry. Really distant and msd. D:
I'm fine, thanks, Rhydian. :)
You?
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Good to hear. :D I'm good thanks
Back.
*sighs*
My mum is having Reiki therapy and I KNOW it's a load of crap. I really want to tell her but the woman is here so...
I could, of course, get into a heated debate about how it's completely ineffective, but still.
Now the woman is saying about how my laptop is giving off "negative energy".
... it's energy. Energy cannot be negative. The only thing that my laptop is emitting is radiation. -.-
SORRY FOR POOFING!! YouTube is SO distracting.
Gtg now :( bye!!
Bye Rhydian!
"Now, mentally call in your spirit guide"...
*coughs* Crap *coughs*
"Why do alligators write good essays? Because their quotes are snappy..."
*headdesks repeatedly*
I am THROUGH with these revision guides.
:P
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ERIK
Hey Taia! How are you? Sorry for the late reply. ^^
Er.
My mom practices Reiki.
Though that computer thing is kind of stupid..
Hi, Dragona! No problem. :)
I'm good, thanks. :)
My Of Mice and Men revision guide for English lit is making me want to cry, though. I'm generally quite a pun-friendly human but this is just beyond me. :P
How are you? :)
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LENNY :,(
HELLO!
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*LENNIE
XD
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Of Mice and Men is a stupid book. You always study about the different things the author has written into his story, different themes and stuff - if you did the same with my writing, you could probably find similar things, but I don't do it on purpose. I don't think he would have written them in on purpose, either, in hindsight. It's stupid.
I'm sorry oh gods
I already forgot
Holden caulfield has messed up my head
@Dragona: I don't think it's a stupid book at all.
And - I write things like that into my writing on purpose . . . :P
So yah.
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I don't think it's a stupid book because it's awesome, story-wise, I mean.
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I put things like that into my day-to-day speech on purpose. -_-
Sometimes.
Not that often.
I mostly just use metaphors, as far as verbal literary devices goes.
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Speaking of which, Star, there's a part of my ME story you haven't read yet if you have time. ^^
@Adra: Sorry, my Engish teacher would shoot ME if I didn't *Lennie. :P
But, yeah. :(
But it's so hard to take it seriously when every other sentence is "I saw an anrgy rabbit once - he was hopping mad" and "Anyway I won't keep rabbiting on" and "LOL if I was in Of Mice and Men my name would be "Superfunny Wittybrains" and "A well-structured answer is loads better than a pages of waffle. Mmmm waffles." and "What do examiners eat? Why, egg-sam-wiches of course...", and then there's a random picture of a mouse and a tarantula with the caption "the best laid plans of mice go wrong when there's a massive tarantula guarding the cheese" and *throws textbook across the room, screaming* :P
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I agree with Star- it's a pretty good book. It's darker than other Modernist Books, but it showed the thinking of the post-Depression time.
Lennie and George's farm is symbolic, though. Whether or not Steinbeck intended it to be is a debate, but it IS a symbol.
It's like saying, "Oh yes, my character just had a crash in a vehicle. Because she's a girl, it represents how women are oppressed in society".
... She just had a crash. It COULD be used as a symbol, but it doesn't mean it IS.
@Taia: :( :( :( :( :( :(
I want it.
*screams* GIVE ME YOUR REVISION GUIDE NOW!
CGP :(
*fangirls in a corner*
So, I fangirl over CGP, WordReference.com and Subway.
Uh-huh.
CGP THOUGH
CGP ARE, LIKE, ALMOST AS GOOD AS A7X
WELL, NOT REALLY
ACTUALLY, NOT EVEN CLOSE
BUT THEY'RE, LIKE, THE A7X OF REVISISON GUIDES
MUCH MORE SO, EVEN, BECAUSE REVISION GUIDES SUCK
THEY ARE REVOLUTIONARY
THEY ARE . . . THEY ARE STAR WARS.
Anyway.
*coughs*
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Star - at subway have you tried the Italian BMT?
Trust me, by the time you've finished you'll all hate CGP and think their humour is dry. You see too much of it.
Okay, but the farm is the physical representation of the American Dream. (like a Garden of Eden). It's what they were moving towards- it is their dream. It's what they went towards. It isn't a difficult symbol, but it was one that every Okie and farmhand had at the time.
The point is, although the credibility of some symbols are iffy, that doesn't mean that every single thing that is generally a symbol- isn't. Authors if that time did put a lot of thought into their works... Perhaps, percentage-wise, more than authors do today.
And, also, Modernist writers use a ton of symbolism anyway.
@Dragona: No. I disagree.
In OMAM, it was a lot more obvious than that. Also, Keating was in the crash for a logical reason and nothing pointed to the fact that she was a woman in a crash that made it difficult. It could have been a man in a crash and the same thing would have happened (like, assuming the man did the same things Keating did - if he was just innocent than yeah). In fact, Henry was in the crash with her.
In OMAM, Curley's wife is stuck on the farm because she is a woman. She would not be stuck there if she was a man.
Therefore the symbolism potential is much higher.
Okay, now THAT is just the beginning of a potential argument. :P
(It's a long beginning though.)
(In comparison to the rest of it, I mean.)
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Hey Star! :)
@Dragona: I get you. Our teacher overanalyzes every other word and you get to a point where, OK, this single word DOES foreshadow certain events, or portray a certain idea but I don't think Steinbeck sat and thought "HOW MANY WAYS CAN I FORESHADOW EVERYTHING EVER" before hand, y'know? :P
There was a bit at the end of Robert Cormier's 'Heroes' where our teacher was going on about how Nicole's clothing shows how she's all lackluster and dull and has no spirit and whatnot and we're just there like "IT IS HER SCHOOL UNIFORM ._. " :P
BUT, I do think that there are also a lot of techniques used that are effective, and there's nothing included that is not useful towards the novel in that everything that happens contributes and has consequences. He doesn't include anything just for the sake of it.
So I don't think it's a bad book, at all, but I DO think that you begin to get that impression through overanalysis. *nodS*
:)
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*nods at Adra*
@Dragona: No.
No.
NEVER.
CGP are mad and make no sense.
That never gets old.
Logically, it would get old, but it isn't logical because it doesn't make sense. <3
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...though, the symbolism isn't even the most important thing- the message is...
Sorry, I get touchy about the Classics. I think you have a right to your opinion, but in just simply saying mine on the matter...
Arduous, perhaps, but...
*Shrugs* We might have studied it a little differently as well. I might have a different appreciation, or something.
Oh...
@Taia: I can overanalyse to death. :)
To DEATH.
So I just dip in and out of realisticness as I go, but it gets the essay written.
Or doesn't, because I apparently can't write essays without having an emotional breakdown about it. :P
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@Star: YOU ARE WELCOME TO TAKE IT. I CAN'T HANDLE IT ANY MORE. XD
(except that I don't know how I'd get it to you but you know what I mean. You WOULD be welcome to have it. :P)
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Star: Henry's BODY was in the car crash with her. He had been already minced up by the gunship's machine gun.
In which case, Star, notice what I mentioned about no one trusting biotics? That could be used as a symbol - because if she wasn't a biotic then she'd have no concern about it. That could be used as a symbol for dunno... racism? But it isn't. They're just distrusted in society because of misinformation relayed from Asari abilities.
Okay seriously though, Lennie :,(
I like Gatsby more that OMAM, though.
THAT has symbolism. Not a single doubt about it. Damn.
I love that book
<3
@Dragona- when dealing with symbolism, people don't just randomly throw things at a page. They look for common themes of the author, their works, the era, the work itself. THEN they go into a deeper detail about it.
Like, there probably wouldn't be a symbol of the oppressed woman in society in a post-modern (today) book, because that doesn't happen in the first world (unless you were writing about a third world- then that's different)
You see?
So yeah... It would be poor analytical skills to just throw stuff at the page
I'm not saying that Steinbeck decided just to write and did them all accidentally, but it DOES get to the point where evidence for the symbolicness (let's just pretend it's a word, ok?) stretches a little thin.
Anything, if you look closely enough, could be used as some sort of symbol.
In terms of foreshadowing, I like what The World's End film did. Because they go to all these different pubs, they use their names to show what will happen.
Like:
Each of the names of the 12 pubs featured in the movie foreshadow events that take place there. The first pub they visit is 'The First Post'; The interior of 'The Old Familiar' is exactly the same as 'The First Post'; Gary King is finally recognized as the banned teenager in 'The Famous Cock'; they get into a fight at 'The Cross Hands'; The guys all drink in unison at the "Good companion" the drug dealer Reverend Green is met in 'The Trusted Servant'; the bitchy twins are met in 'The Two-Headed Dog'; at 'The Mermaid', the characters are tempted to their downfall by beautiful women; the characters fight off swarms of enemies at 'The Beehive'; at 'The King's Head', Gary King makes a last stand and decides to continue his journey without anyone else's help; a car is driven through 'The Hole in the Wall', leaving a hole in the wall and the events that transpire at 'The World's End' lead to the end of the world.
I like foreshadowing. It's cool.
TAIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA GIVE IT TO ME. D:
I'M DYING.
Meh. I can't handle things emotionally pretty much every day. :P I get used to dying.
Well
I don't
ALADRA
*mutters*
ALADRA ARE HORRIBLE TO ME
OR JUDT HORRIBLE, FULL STOP. :P
@Dragona: Yeeeeeeeees . . .
But Adra just said that the important thing wasn't the symbolism, it was the message.
Because the message is so strong, it is natural to look for symbolism around it. Your writing doesn't really have messages, so people generally take it as series of events to read. When you start getting . . . slipping past the layer of reality it's set it to look at it from a distance, if you like - you start looking at everything from distance, and therefore seeing things from a different way.
Your writing is very in the here-and-now, so you kind of stay there.
(I should be able to write essays.
*glares at self*)
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I think...I ought to simply not bother
@Star: Aw. :(
@CGP-conversation: I get both of you. I simultaneously want to storm in and throw things at all of the CGP people but also kind of love them, too. :P
We work mostly from WJEC stuff because Wales, so we don't see a lot of CGP. WJEC-based resources don't have such a weird attitude. They're just like, 'THIS IS THE INFORMATION. HERE ARE SOME SAMPLE EXAM QUESTIONS.' Rinse and repeat. They're not at all superfluous.
The time we DO spend with CGP-resources, therefore, is both horrible and wonderful at the same time. xD
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No messages. Hell yeah :D
Sorry, Star xD
Gatsby's Green light :,)
GATSBY'S GREEN LIGHT
Right *has no idea whats being spoken of*
AND THE EYES OF T.J. ECKLEBURG
AHJAHAHSJDKNDMCD
AND THE CARNIVAL
I need to put more symbolism into my stories
@Zaf: Literature. :P
Sorry if I'm only partly following. I'm sort of... not doing anything. But distant anyway? idk. :P
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"He can't see you
Calm down
Watch out
Would they have been worth 4 peer paragraphs? No."
Me: "I could probably manage to write four PEEAL paragraphs on it, because I am me and I make incredibly tenuous links. :P
I would probably start analysing the fact that 'He' is a pronoun, not a name, and therefor it makes it more impersonal, less human, and therefore, inhuman, the unknown, and scary.
(Preferably in full sentences. :P)
And you could also remark on the contrast between the 'Calm down' and the 'Watch out'. The 'Calm down' is meant to be reassuring, which implies that there something to be reassured FROM, and that something is scary, so you should be afraid of it.
And the fact that the 'Watch out' is after it implies that the character's thoughts are contradicting, which means they're fracturing, possibly from fear, which adds tension. The lack of full stops also represents their fracturing thoughts - the different sentences are running together whilst also being separated, jerky.
And the phrase 'Watch out' is a warning, which warns the reader that something is going to happen.
Plus, the use of the pronoun 'you' - it's a personal pronoun, and it directly addresses the reader, making them feel more involved in the scene. As the scene is tense, this therefore makes them feel more tension.
*pauses, momentarily stumped*
'See' - if someone can 'see' you it makes you feel exposed, vulnerable. These are negative feelings and make you feel more tense.
Also, short sentences. That's a given. :P"
I can overanalyse
to
DEATH.
*nods*
I'm quite proud of it.
It's a bit of a useless skill, though.
I mean, what are you meant to do with it?
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Star: Analyse a whole book. And publish your findings.
@Dragona: I'm not sure I have the patience to analyse a whole book. :P
Plus I would never be able to read it properly again, probably.
Hey.
I should analyse The End of the World.
That wouldn't be too bad.
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Alright, well I'm going. Bye
Also Hi Zaf! :)
Also Hi Adra! (I don't think I greeted you before. Sorry. :P) :)
@Star: I get to overanalyze in the poetry part of the exam. That is fun. But it's not an extended period of time, it's just two poems, and however much time you're supposed to spend on that question (I'm still not clear on that. :P). Overanalyzing four times a week for a year gets a little tiring, for me. :P
And- it's not a useless skill. If you can analyze others' writing, you can put that information of technique and things into your own writing. Maybe you don't even realise it. But it's like... People often learn music theory when they learn to play a musical instrument. Because if you understand what is going on then it's easier to work out what to do when you come to do it yourself, if you see what I mean?
I'm not saying you NEED to know all of the particular techniques in writing to be a good writer, because just as easily you could develop a kind of instinct as to what works, and you just KNOW that it does and you don't need a reason. But it depends on the person, and knowing what's going on probably can't hurt, y'know? :)
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Fours, Adra . . . :(
*nods at Taia*
It's a skill you can do without, though. :P
Actually, it is useless for me because I CAN'T WRITE ESSAYS!
-_-
Well.
I can.
Probably
but.
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*facepalms*
I didn't greet Adra until she'd left? :P
*hugs* Bye, Adra!
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@Star: Most skills people can do without, though, I guess. :)
If you like writing and you write in your free time, then knowing about writing is good, because I guess you can be evaluative of the effectiveness of your own stories and such, kind of?
Like... You know when you look back on your computer and/or in notebooks and find old pieces of writing that you did [insert-how-long-ago]? And you're reading it like ' ._. ' because how much is not that good about it?
BEcause you KNOW more about writing through experience and learning, and you can see your commas used in the wrong places or repetitive sentence structure or 100% unrealistic dialogue or lack of detail in gestures and general behaviour or entirely sucky/cliché storyline.
And you can see those things because you've learned and grown, and you know how to analyze and it's a skill that your brain has that it can see and do so you KNOW what's bad about it.
And if your brain knows what not to do, then while you're writing your stories NOW, it's probably keeping from making a lot of those mistakes.
Because it has that skill of analysis, and it actively uses it?
Maybe?
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Too many words...
*nods at Taia*
Thank you. :) :) :)
*hugs*
Yeah.
It probably has a bit of use.
But not much. :P
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@Zaf: Yeah. D:
Sorry.
I'm good at using words in excess.
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Its fine. I'm just not thinking
@Zaf: :/
*hugs*
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And also - I expect you probably could write an essay well. :) ^^
The problem with exam boards is that they're often so closed-minded.
Like in science and they want the phrase "brick red" and if you gave the exact RGB-combination to give the exact colour, you probably would not get the mark, because even though you were right, you didn't use the phrase "brick red".
Or when the mark scheme reckons that your two sentences should be linked to give you the mark for the second sentence, so you can't have a full-stop. Even if you you write "...blahdiblah. This means that..." it doesn't count as linkage because it's a separate sentence. -.-
(Maybe that is just us WJEC folks, idk. But it sucks. :P)
If I was an examiner and I read an essay on Of Mice and Men which was built mostly on analogies in order to convey the messages that it sent - if it did that WELL, and the messages were clear, I would not see any reason why it should not be worth a high grade.
I don't know if that's how it works as it is, though. I feel like maybe they tend to look for specific structure and approach, and that sucks, because an essay that uses a different approach could be WAAAAAY better than one that uses your general concise Point/Quote/Comment/repeat approach. But I don't know whether or not the board would take that. idk.
Like, our English teacher always says "Do it this way. Just this way. ... Unless you're real awesome and can pull it off in THAT way. In which case, OK. But mostly just do it this way."
So I guess if you can do something in a way that works for you better, and you do it WELL, so that it conveys everything that somebody else's usual-method approach would, then maybe credit could be given equally.
That's how it SHOULD be.
But idk if it works like that.
I'm not seguing into any kind of a point. I'm just kind of rantbling. Sorry. :P
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Its fine! I'm just sligtly tired
@Taia: *nods*
Eh.
I had a metaphor once about essays. We can all do what they want us to do perfectly well in out own languages, but if we're all speaking different languages, often people can't translate and it's also hard to measure, so we all have to learn how to speak the same language in order to make it easier to mark.
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@Zaf: Oh, crap. Sorry. :P
I think I'm done ranting/rambling. Sorry. My hands get carried away and use lots of words to either say the thing in my head or just to say nothing at all. And I don't realise until it's too late to turn back. :P
*offers a cookie*
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@Star: That... Was definitely more concise than how I put it. :P
That makes a lot of sense. *nods* *stores*
:)
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@Taia: I think that it's a bit like spacing out. I don't go "Ooh, I know, how about I stop paying attention so I won't know what I'm doing! Yes, that's a great idea!"
I just realise, five minutes later, that I haven't been here.
It's like that with talking. I just realise, five minutes later, that I've said a load and it's like errrr. :P
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@Taia: I said it once before, though. :P Practise.
My friend was saying yesterday that I was so articulate and I just don't know where the hell she got that idea from. O_O
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Okay, so I saw my YouTube tab refreshing itself, because internet, you know, so I hit to close the tab because I didn't want it playing and I didn't need it, and then the next thing you know it starts playing, like, really loud, and my headphones aren't in, and it's half nine at night and I have younger siblings so I'm just like DAMMIT, and then I wait for it to realise that tab's closed and it doesn't, so then I'm like DAMMIT and I look around and I can't see the tab anywhere, so then I reach for my headphones and plug them in and then I look at the internet icon and my tab's moved onto a new window so I close it and phew BUT STILL. O_O
I am glad that wasn't Slipknot. :P
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Well
not really loud
but AUDIBLY
DUH DUH DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH /DUH/ DUH /DUH/ DUH /DUH/ DUH /DUH/ DUH /DUH/ DUH /DUH/ DUH DUH DUH DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH-DUH -
yeah. :P
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@Star: *nods* Yeah. ^^
And- Fair enough. But still. :P
*laughs* My friend told me recently that I'm so indirect that my help is useless. :P She said I'm like our English teacher, and I can talk about ideas and thoughts and possibilities but don't actually tell her what to DO.
And I was sort of half grin-laughing, because I completely understood. But to me, that's kind of a good thing, soooo... :P
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@Taia: *laughs* XD
I think it's kind of a good thing. :) :)
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@Star: D:
I'm like that when it's like 2AM and I go to get a drink or open the window or just wander back and forth around my room/the landing for a bit,, and I accidentally walk into something or knock something over, and it sounds REALLY LOUD because 2AM is so quiet, and it's just harrowing. :P
And- :):)
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Hia. Here for a bit before school.
@Taia: D: D:
Not fun. :/
Well, my bed is a wooden loft bed, and so whenever I climb up the ladder and get into it, it CREAKS, so if I'm going to bed late my parents can always HEAR. O_O
It doesn't creak very loudly.
But it's AUDIBLE.
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Hey Snow! :)
#ChaseForBookNine
*pokes hunter*
@Star: D:
I always accidentally, like, hit my head/hand/foot on the wall or something, and it makes noise. And I don't go "OW. D:", I go "OH NO, DID I WAKE ANYONE UP? D:" :P
Hiya Snow! :)
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*sticks Zaf back together with GlitterGlue*
(GLITTER-GLUE! :O:O:O)
On an unrelated note, I love how Justin Pierre can make feeding a gerbil sound sincere in his lyrics. x3 / :P
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GERBIL!!!
@Zaf: C:
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I love gerbils!!! My two are asleep though, they'll be awake soon
:):):)
*nods* Cute. :3
MSD
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@Taia: :) :)
And - D:
AUDIBUBBLE! :)
Of course. :) :)
#ChaseForBookNine
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL-
Ded.
Gotta ded.
*makes various thinking actions*
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*continues to happily explode*
Hello.
Hey Amethyst! :)
#ChaseForBookNine
Hello Star! How are you?
Okay, I think. :)
You?
#ChaseForBookNine
I'm fine :)
That's good. :)
#ChaseForBookNine
So now what?
I dedicate to enjoying things in the way that you enjoy them, or doing things in the way that you do.
I could expand on that, but I'm tired, so, eh. :P
I also dedicate to certain independent rock bands who disguise themselves with names of Harrison Ford movie characters, spend the least amount of time possible when writing and recording noisy songs and talking nonsense, and release the product on obnoxious formats like square vinyl. Also space cats. :P
But mostly the first part. *nods* :)
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Hi Amethyst! :)
WBD/MSD
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Hello Taia! How are you?
I'm good, thanks. :) And you? ^^
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Hi Amethyst
I'm fine :)
Hello Zafira! How are you?
@Taia: :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
#ChaseForBookNine
Tired.
Oh. Why are you tired?
I just am today
Oh. Okay.
@Star: *returns smiles* :):):)
I just found a Wikipedia page on 'Unusual types of gramophone records', and have decided that if I could travel in time, I would go back to 1904 to benefit from chocolate records; to the late '50s to benefit from 'Melody cards' - literally a musical postcard; and to the '60s for cardboard records on the back of serial boxes. *nods* :)
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Oh my god. I just searched up chocolate records and now I kind of want one...
They could punch a hole through the middle of an entire magazine and have records in amongst the pages.
So you can fold the magazine back on itself and put the whole thing onto a turntable, and the record would be played. O.O
Maybe things are easier with newer technology, but previous technologies sound FUN. :P
@Amethyst: IKR! xD
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Why don't they have any now???
They could have collectable records!!! :D
I have to go. Bye!
*nods*
Lots of artists still put out music on vinyl records, because :), but those ideas, like the chocolate records and musical postcards are so zany and :):):).
idk. :)
I'm gonna head off now, because, time. Sorry, Amethyst.
*waves* Bye!
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(Oh. Good timing, then. :P Bye!)
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Aaah the silent times
asdfiuYsgaiu
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