My Twitter-wife Holly Smale has brought to the attention of her Twitter-followers, of which I am one, this here magazine article entitled "I Hate Strong Female Characters" — http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2013/08/i-hate-strong-female-characters — and I have to say I agree with it wholeheartedly.
For those of you too time-constricted/lazy to read it, it basically holds up a hand in the classroom and has the temerity to ask "Why are vibrant female characters called strong?" Why are they limited to such a thing? More to the point, however, is why is the word "strong" slung in there at all? If you take away the strong bit, that leaves "female character"— but isn't a female character just as inherently strong as a male character? Why do they need "strong" in there at all?
People say to me all the time "Derek, you're great," and I can't argue with them. They go on to say "I love your black shirt/blue jeans combo" and I nod wisely, agreeing with them but not needing to put it into words. Then they say "It's so cool that your books have strong female characters" and I shrug, and say "Hey, I'm a pretty awesome guy. Now go get me some Skittles."
Valkyrie is a strong female character. As in, she's strong, she's female, and she's a character. But she is not a Strong Female Character. She's not a role model — not really. She's deeply, DEEPLY flawed. Over the course of these eight books, she's done some outstandingly heroic things, but she's also done some downright mean and nasty and selfish things. She's hurt people. She's become arrogant (and not in the cool way that I am).
Here's what Holly has to Twitter-say about the subject:
"Strength" is one dimensional. It's saying "women can be strong like men", NOT "women are flawed, complex, brilliant, weak LIKE MEN."
I love it when readers don't like Valkyrie. I love it when they actively dislike her for the things she's done and the way she's behaved. But it's like they're surprised. It's like they can't compute. "Okay, wait, so... she saves the world but... but she's cheating on her boyfriend?? How is that POSSIBLE?"
Valkyrie is a character. She's as messed up as any male character I could ever write. That's what makes her real to me.
Having a girl as the protagonist in an action/adventure/horror/fantasy/whatever means things are going to get physical, and you all know how much I love my fight scenes. But having her kick ass is not why she's a good character.
Years ago, I was yapping to my mother about Buffy and Xena and talking about how great it is that we now have these TV shows about such strong female characters. My mother, who admittedly has never watched either show, asked me if these really WERE strong female characters, or if they were merely male characters with boobs.
Having a blonde cheerleader save the world with her martial arts skills doesn't equal feminism, she said. That's a male tactic. How about her saving the day using tactics that aren't all about punching and kicking and killing?
I didn't have an answer for her then. I still don't, even now. There's a whole debate to be had that I'm just not ready for, that I may never be ready for. My mother is a pacifist. I am not. We see the world differently, we operate differently, even though we want the same things. We both want equality and peace. My mother is the sort to talk her way to equality and peace. I'm the sort to talk to the point where I reckon more talk won't do any good, and then smash my way through to an understanding. It is not an enlightened viewpoint I hold. It is a crass, brutish viewpoint — but in a crass, brutish world, I believe my way is the way to go. Mum believes otherwise.
And that's the difference, I think, between us. We live in a world carved by men, where fear and oppression and violence are a part of our lives. I can't even IMAGINE a world sculpted by women, where other values have taken hold. I'm limited in that way. I could try not to be, but I honestly wouldn't know where to start. That's kind of sad, when you think about it. For all my imagination, I can't even imagine that...
... (turns to stare hauntingly out the window).
Monday, August 19, 2013
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Hey Fabi! I got cupcakes
"Sherlock i say we do something else it seems Em is content on just annoying Adra and Trip we can do our own thing i guess"
The breaking of the fourth wall in this statement clearly show you were directing it at Em, and not merely talking to Sherlock.
#ChaseForBook9
But /anyway!/
How are you Fabi?
#ChaseForBook9
No i wasnt so sorry i dare fucking say a word so god damn sorry nexttime ill sit back and watch
*leaves the lab, walking lightly off into the woods with her tea*
Cupcakes. Cool.
[Forces a smile]
I'm okay...
#ChaseForBook9
GUYS I GTG. I SHALL BE BACK IN THE MORNING!!!
Okay, I've had enough of this. *Walks off into the forest looking for something to kill*
Well this is a very thoughtful post. It's made me think to the point where I have nothing to say in this comment. For once I agree with everything a blogger has had to say! Will wonders never cease?
*goes off as well, for pensive meanderings of the mind*
Yay cupcakes!
[Sighs]
[Sings]
In our family portrait, we look pretty happy
Can we go back to that, act like it comes naturally?
#ChaseForBook9
oh wait imma stay a little longer. Alexis * Walks over to her and hugs her* Don't be sad. You are awesome, you don't deserve to be down.
Goodbye Brave
So have I...
#ChaseForBook9
"You know, I've always considered women to be people."-George RR Martin.
*walks by the river, sitting on the rocks* *sips more tea*
[Just collapses someplace, I don't even care where]
#ChaseForBook9
No, because you can't make artificial happiness. If someone is unhappy, they cannot just act as if they are.
#ChaseForBook9
*hugs Brave back* Thank you. you're awesome too never forget that
And with that I shall go, because sleep.
#ChaseForBook9
Fabi, the reason most of us are so messed up right now- again I say. Does no one ever listen?- is not so much each other, but our lives outside the screen.
Bye Trip. *hugs*
Night Trip
No i amn't really. Trip, tbh I don' think Alexis aimed it at Em. She was just suggesting something
I think I'm going now.
See you all.
Sometime.
And no, people never listen.
But I probably wasn't here, so...
Bye.
#ChaseForBook9
No... No she wasn't, Brave. Believe me, there's some bad meat between them lately.
Fabi....
Thank you Brave! That's what I did I saw that it was more targetted towards Adra and Trip so I suggested to Sherlock to do something else. And to be honest would you want an 11 year old near werewolves? I was frightened so i decided to leave the situation before i got hurt
Please tell me that this is sucessful ....
So your saying that Alexis aimed it at Em, Adra.
Hey Vinette
because if you are thats bull crap.
Ugh. I'm fucking done with this. Zafira- quit taking out your shite on Em, Trip, whoever else. I'm so sick of it! Em- she is so pissed with you but she isn't willing to say it. But you complain. A LOT. It is either that, storming off, or talking about Ari and Niccolo. I don't know what's up with you and your real life but you need to know why.
Right. I have homework to attend to.
*leaves*
Zaf, I should warn you that Monica MAY come out tonight
I LIKE WHAT I SEE
I LIKE IT A LOT
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY FABULOUSSSSSS
*is not here*
#ChaseForBook9
Good and sorry you walked into this V i'm again being blamed for Em
thank you Brave! it is bull crap everything Em does is blamed on Zafira or whatever character she plays like maybe its Em MAYBE?
Thank you Brave just...thank you for being on my side
Oh my God. Can we just all shut up?! I'm sick of coming on here and people are blaming each other! We are all human and we all make mistakes. Can we please learn to forgive and forget? Yes, Em has been through Hell but it doesn't mean she deserves any special treatment. I had a gun against my head yesterday and I'm still cool. I could have been killed! Some idiot came up and put it against my head.
Everyone, calm the fuck down.
*Vanishes angrily*
THAT IS A LOAD OF CRAP ADRA
She is so kind to EVERYONE and awesome in all ways. sHE DESERVS TO BE TREATED WITH A BIT MORE RESPECT I THINK SO NO MORE WITH THE HORRIBLE COMMENTS.
Stop hiding behind Alexis Zaf!!!
Yeah maybe it could be fucking me, you know I just lost my husband at the start of the year and the Requiem Ball was the first time he came on the blog and it actually fucking hurts to think about.
But it's not me Zaf because this hasn't been the first time that you take shots at me while we were role playing.
And if you meant Alexis to say say to Sherlock let's go somewhere safe, you would have said let's get away from the werewolves. But you didn't, you said 'Em is annoying Adra and Trip again.'
So don't make me out to be the bad guy when yet again we both know it was not my fault. I was doing nothing but roleplaying!
I thought we talked this through the last time on Skype and I forgave you and I thought we moved on. What a fool I was to forgive you!
Don't get me wrong, I love Em, she is equally as awesome but you cannot badmouth Zafira about it.
Everybody ... Lets just ... Calm down ...
Fuck this. Like, seriously. I can't... I'm not coming on this fucking place anymore. Seriously, what happened to the old Blogland? I miss that place.
Fuck life.
Yeah good idea Death.
Fuck Life!!
Em what happened to chase was horrible and we are all torn by it and i understand what you are going through and we all love you em. I am NOT badmouthing you i swear.
I dunno what is going on anymore.
I understand that a lot has happened and there is a lot of Miscommunication but we are all here in a common interest of Derek Landy and the books he writes.
We should be able to put aside any differences and come together to converse about what we like and dislike about the books, theories on vague ideas within the seris, and be civil together as human beings or whatever species you are.
Lets be peaceful here.I don't want to become a referee.
Thank you Brave! THANK YOU I get badmouthed over anything because i dared speak up? first off this is my character i am not hiding behind her and second off no kidding you lost Chase but dont take it out on me. dont ignore my comments i said hi to drew no response i have Alexis outside em's door nothing but her going to the medical bay not even SEEING Alexis
Deacon sorry wrong wolf still it was one of your characters
vinette you so would be a hilarous referee you'd just rhereaten us all and kill us
Well Technically I would just say "fuck this referee thing" and join the fight myself.
You know better than most how dangerous this unidentified creature is. XD
Remember when I broke Blogland last week?
lol you so are insane
Just you average sociopath.
lol crazy persona!
Listen up you lil' turtle shells.
This is how it works.
NOBODY EVER LISTENS TO THIS SPEECH SO I MAKE IT A LOT.
Everyone knows pain. Death, loss, abuse, rape, disease, illness, handicap, bullying, depression- ANYTHING. And people come on here to vent and people come on her to get away. And then there are people who haven't been hit with THE THING that will hurt them the most. People, it is good to have a short term outlet for your feelings and issues but if you have a serious problem, we can not give you the help you need. If you are dehydrated, we can only give you a sip of water. Someone who knows what they are doing can give you bottles of water.
Please, guys. This is ridiculous.
I honestly believe that this is where it has began.
Everyone knows or will know pain and sadness. But taking it out on each other does not help. Neither does relying solely on us to get you through life- because we are miles away, and we are only words.
You all HAVE to take the next step but we can not coddle you forever- we know you can find help... But still.
But that is where the heart of all this violence is here. That.
*cue flames and hate comments*
That speech was well done Adra.
Thank you...well done Adra.
Good speech Adra.
silence surrounds you...
*hugs Brave* Brave you know that really was nice of you to say about Momma! She's crying
*smiles sadly* thank you Brave nobody actually often stands up for me *smiles* Oh Ari is gonna kill one of us
You all better fucking be snapshotting that and be making that your background
Of course Adra
Alright, Guess it's time for the schpeel.
People who know the pain (Of whatever it is) understand it and can help others go through it. People who do not, will never understand unless it happens to them.
I know people with problems. I won't say names. I have people who are sheltered beyond comprehension. I know depressed and suicidal people. I know some people who probably be in an asylum.
If they hurt, I understand. I've had bad times. But you can't dwell on them. You need to move forward and live.
I didn't know Chase. Not at all. But he sounds like he was an AWESOME dude. It's sad he had to join the stream. But I think that everyone needs to learn that you cant live in the past.
Otherwise you get like the weird horder with 20 cats.Ya'Know?
But seriously. Life isn't all about yesterday. Its about yesterday, today, AND tomorrow. Life goes on. Who knows? You may meet another person who is going to make you smile as much as you did with Chase.
I sorry for your loss. I totally understand your pain.
#ChaseForBook9
*raises glass* Nice, V.
The pain I know is leaving and being left, so. I kind if know. But all pain comes from the same demon
I LOVE writing. Especially stories.
We need to let go of our demons is what I seem to be seeing as what everyone is saying
I broke blogland for a whole 2 minutes.
Accomplishment!
Evil woman V
This includes you, Zaf.
I have let go of mine but it is still there. Not all the time, but sometimes I accidentally dig deep enough...
Thank you Zafira. I try my best to be So so Evil.
I <3 Evil
I HAVE let go
Zaffy ... Behave yourself. I am being cival (For once.) so you should be as well
You don't have to- but if you want to move on with your live then you need to
I am too actually now
Alrighty then. So you don't need my ... *ahem* Services?
Well I have let go
OMG YES I GOT THE FINAL JEOPARDY QUESTION RIGHT HELL YES FOR CIVIL WAR LOVING MOTHER
You can stay Miss Riddle. We are all a little mad here in Blogland. Though...heh.
When did you? Because it doesn't happen in seconds. It took me three years to get over my parent's divorce, Zaf.
Vinette Riddle I thought I killed you.
Hi little Alexis. How are you?
I gtg to sleep. Be on later.
Stay awesome
You can't kill me ... I dont die like humans do.
Besides, you cheated.
A few weeks ago Adra took me a while to get over the death of someone I knew...since I was a baby
*puts Alexis inside the treehouse* Sweet demonnic creature I thought I killed you. Pity.
Good night Brave.
Weeeeeeelllllll ...
Whilst Zaf was away I was determined as " A dangerous Experiment" So now Technically I am now property of the Sanctuary ....
(It's more like I'm there pet but it's embarrassing to say it like that.)
Well my wife is Grand Mage so it appears I can ask permission to kill you. I have a job I wish to be paid for completing.
Javier no killing. You're already in enough legal trouble
I am protected by the Sanctuary. Do you really want to be responsible for the release of a "Dangerous Experiment"?
The Grotesquery was a "Dangerous Experiment"
Zaf, Lady says "Meow purrrrrrrrr." (Which mean Hi, I miss you.)
I...GRRRR you are oh so lucky I cannot kill you, Riddle. Oh so lucky. *glares at and draws knife*
*Draws Sword* I can take you on, pretty boy.
*slams their heads together*
Hush.
OWWW *backs away* Damn it Adra
Well THAT was uncalled for.
*tries to not die laughing* Good job Adra
Shut up Zaf. Your Lucky they lock me up and SEDATE me at night.
So that was painful....*glaares* I should...no i'll behave I don't need Trip on my tail
I'm doing vocab work. And you two are being lil shits and trying to kill each other.
YOU DONT KNOW
ELLO!
Well you're dangerous ok? You aren't even human
Hey Jubi
Hello Jubi
Adra but I was hired to kill her! She's to be exterminated as an illegal creature!
Who said anything about Killing?
Oh yeah, Javier did. I just said I could take him. The death there is Implied. *Smiles*
Your death would be much fun for me I would enjoy killing you, creature.
JAVIER!!!! ZAF!!!!!! *supermegatacklehugsofdoom*
HAAII!!
I'm gonna punch you both to hell.
Not you Jubs. I like you.
*yelps* Zaffy been tackled
uuggghh I just ran nonstop for 3 hours...
And I would Enjoy ripping your pretty face into pieces. The blood would be tasty.
Adra I am Hell. *focuses on Adra*
No killing my husband, V and Jubi omg *huggles*
YAY I'M NOT GETTING PUNCHED!!!
I don't like getting punched...
And
ADRA!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYONE ELSE!!!!!!!!!!! *supermegatacklehugsofdoom*
HAAII!
*Huggles back*
wait.. why am I getting huggled..?
Oh is it for the running?
*Sad face*
If he attacks me I WILL defend myself ... If he dies ... Not my fault.
For nonstop running
If I attack you you'd be dead, creature
Yeah... Well it wasn't nonstop exactly...
I was doing soccer and all we did was RUN and do DRILLS and RUN MORE and we just got 30 seconds of break after every run and drill thingymabob...
so
yeah
UUGGHHH
As zaf and I said all last tuesday
LETS FIND OUT!!!
Ouch eww i hate runing
*kicks Javier in the face* I've seen hell. And you are nothing like it
Hell no V Javier's in enough trouble as it is! All I need is Aretha coming on...or him testing his magic on Niccolo we really do NOT need Alastair
I should probably take a shower..
BUT I'M SOOO FREAKING TIIRREEEDDDDDDD
*dies*
Ha.ha.
*backs off and sends a punch to the side of Adra's head* No throwing your authority around I see.
PREACH.
Javier, play nice for a change.
*blocks the punch, kneeing him in the stomach then sending an elbow to his face* Not authority- irritation
Alexis: not Alastair I dont like him cuz he's mean
Shh darling
*blocks the elbow and is on knees teeth grit in slight pain* Iirritation? *sends knife at her stomach* Die sweetie die.
Vinette I am being nice.
Javier stand down boy *mentally plays with his emotions making his anger leave him* Control yourself Javier
Yeah, ok. And I'm a model citizen and the town hero.
I am perfectly calm V. Perfectly.
Calm. But not Nice.
*looks at the knife*
*pulls it out, slashing him across the face*
*dashes in, screeching*
SEPTEMBER SEVENTEENTH.
I don't think it was supposed to be announced yet - I'd have thought if it had been, I'd know - but I saw the Novemeber tour poster on tumblr, and in the bottom left corner-
*squees uncontrollably*
Septemberrrrr.
Seventeeeeeennnnnttthhhhhhhhh.
*grins and flails and blah*
#ChaseForBook9
*stumbles back away from Adra* ah...shit
TAIA!!!! *Supermegatacklehugsofdoom*
HAAAII!!!! *supermegatacklehugsofdoom*
OMG THAT'S THE DAY BEFORE MY BIRTHDAYY!!
ZAFFY?
Wait..
What exactly is on September 17th?
Sorry, don't mind me, I just need to let of my happy-steam.
Inside Out! I knew they were considering releasing it at some random point as a single, but only considering...
And now-
*squees again*
C:
#ChaseForBook9
Hi Taia!
*kicks Javier in the side before lumbering back towards her lab*
*cries out but doesnt go after her* oww...
Im just...quiet *kneels by Javier* you idiot
*supermegatacklehugofdoom-ed*
*hugs back*
OMG AWESOME, JUBI! :)
According to my observant observations, Motion City Soundtrack have a new single release on that date! :D
Which may not SOUND like much but it is. It issssssss.
*laughs* And now I have too much excitement to even think of sleeping. xP
#ChaseForBook9
IM LONELY AND THEY DONT NEED TO SEDATE ME UNTIL 10:30!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok well I'm sort of dealing with Javier *sits by him* you really need to stop trying to kill people
I know...I hope I didn't make Ari go insane or something...
Ok ... Need any help? After all, you technically own me.
*sighs* well I'm not responsible for it ok? You got to stop. *kisses cheek* Behave yourself. Last thing you need is to be arrested before the Ball
*sits in the medical bay, cleaning the wound, noticing how many scars she has*
*nods* Real attractive, Adra
No V I can handle him
Zaffy....*sighs* I didnt totally...never mind. Can I go to our room and sleep? Before I piss off someone else in the Sanctuary?
Fine Javier *stands offering him a hand* Behave yourself got it? Adra should arrest you for this you know
takes her hand standing up* Yes Zaf. I understand.
Good *shadow walks into our room in the treehouse* Sleep. If we need to sedate the creature I'll wakr you ok?
Yes Zaf. *climbs into bed and sleeps*
*shadow walks down outside treehouse* Foolish creatures god forsaken inages that daunt me
*rolls her eyes, listening to them, and attaching her bloodvessels and nerves*
Not until 10:30. Otherwise the system will be broken with the weird science-y guys.
They will not be pleased.
lalalalalala *hums to Castle on A Cloud* Hi guys!
Aaaadraaaa you ok?
They played it a couple of times live already, I know that much. But I hadn't really had much chance to listen properly to the YouTube videos of those performances.
But I'm a little scared. Because I can't imagine it won't be epic but I don't know. No more Thaxtony, and I don't know what Claudio's drumming is like, and it's probably awesome but what if... Bah, I don't know. :P
But I'm happy. And I have something to look forward to now!
I mean, Yes, I have LSoDM to aniticipate, but I have no understanding of it, as haven't gotten KotW yet. The release is still a look-forward-to-er, but I can't get hold of it yet anyhow. Or I could, but it wouldn't make a lot of sense. I CAN get hold of this, however. So I'll be up at midnight to catch it when it first appears, like I did with Making Moves. :)
I need to work out what day it is. I need to plan. I need to celebrate.
And I need to sleep. :P
Sorry for the random appearing and babbling and blah. But I'm happy, and you guys tend to make happy, so I made a connection with that, I guess. :)
*tacklehugs everyone*
Byes~
*rolls out, squeeing and flinging ponegranates in random directions*
September Seventeeeeeeennnntttthhhhh. :3
#ChaseForBook9
Yeah I'm fine. Nothing I haven't done. Before...
*pours a liquid into her wound then sets on stitching it up*
*pomegranates
:P
#ChaseForBook9
lalalalalala *hums to Castle on A Cloud* Hi guys!
Hi Alexis.
You sure Adra?
*glances at creature unsure*
Hi...*continues to hum*
*Gives flowers to Alexis* I found these and I thought you would like them.
Thank you. *goes to room in treehouse and puts them in a vase of water then comes down holding Coco bear* I'm waiting for Elder Tesla...I wanna know if maybe Mr. Niccolo would take interest in training me.
*lies down in grass and whistles 'stars'*
This was a very interesting post, and though I admit to not yet having read the article it is discussing, I would like to share my primary reactions and state that the "strong" in my ideal "strong female character" is not the capability or the muscles or the mental fortitude or any of what we conventionally think of as strength. All I see as a requirement for being a strong female character is to be a strong character in the literary sense, the kind of character whose emotions are real to the reader, who is consistent and vibrant and believable. It doesn't matter if they're the one getting beat up in every chapter, or crying their eyes out so long as we as an audience are given a three-dimensional view of their struggle. To me, this is what it means to have a strong character, and obviously they don't have to be female, though unfortunately there is a shortage of female characters who are portrayed in this way. Which leads to the point of this article: in response to hearing about their male-dominated stories, entertainment companies seek to look good in the eyes of the public by inserting capable women into their work who essentially serve as a place holder to fill a requirement "There, our movie has a capable woman. We're not sexist." when in reality, having one or two women on an otherwise predominantly male cast who have very little personality outside of punching people or some equivalent to punching people (in other genres) perpetuates the sexist view of women as shallow, unreasonable, and unsophisticated. I am not claiming that all movies, TV shows, games, books, or other media do this, as I know this is not the case, but it is an easily visible problem in our society and in media as a whole. So basically, I think we need to not use the word "Strong Female Character" to mean "One-sided attractive woman who punches people", we need to use it for what it is, and praise people who do it correctly, rather than badmouthing what could potentially be a good thing in the evolution of modern storytelling.
Now that I've gotten my point across, hopefully in an eloquent and non-offensive manner, I wish to comment on the mention of Valkyrie. By my definition, I consider Valkyrie to be a strong female character. She is well-rounded and her emotions, actions, and fears are understandable and relatable, even if we don't agree with them or like them. I frequently tell people that I love Valkyrie as a character, I love reading about her. I think she's funny and interesting and sharp-witted, as well as displaying several shades of darkness. I love her character, but I would never want to meet her in real life, because I know I wouldn't like her as a real person. And that in itself speaks to her strength as a character— that I can imagine her in real life, in the real world talking to me well enough to decide that I wouldn't like it at all.
To conclude, I would like to applaud Mr. Landy on his incredible characterization skills, not only of women, but of everyone he mentions in his books, male, female, neither, both, etc.
Yep! *finishes stitching herself up, changing into a crop top and a long skirt*
*wraps gauze around her stomach* I find that when a wound is closer to air it heals faster...
Do you have a crush one Niccolo?
*on
Sorta..kinda...
Really? I didnt know that Adra
Sorta..kinda...
Sorta..kinda...
whats going ooooon
*giggles* Well...Niccolo is cute...
He is? Tell me more.
Well, for me. *lays down on the rock floor* I shall be back when my homework is done...
*aligns her energy with the earth below her*
He..well...he...really is nice despite his past. And he's 531 years old *smiles* but Ccoco dwells on the past and doesnt realize well he does but, he doesnt look past Aretha because he cant figure out emotions
Okay Adra!
V dedicate the page
DEDICATIONS! YAY!
I Dedicate this page to ...
Zaf. The worlds best Necromancer
Derek. The worlds Best writer without whom no of us would be together
Akadia. My 1 year old 2nd Niece
and Billy-Ray. My Soul Mate.
Maybe you should give him a lesson. Be HIS teacher.
Hear hear! *grins* I been ded to
Niccolo is a scholar from before the Reninsaunce I really doubt he would listen. The idiot is too cooped up on his past.
You ARE my best friend.
Well ... Show him to look past that. Show him what good the present gives.
But how? He knows I like him but he doesnt listen! He's a stubborn man who really and truly needs emotional help, *glares at floor*
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