Monday, August 19, 2013

Strong Female Characters

My Twitter-wife Holly Smale has brought to the attention of her Twitter-followers, of which I am one, this here magazine article entitled "I Hate Strong Female Characters" — http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2013/08/i-hate-strong-female-characters — and I have to say I agree with it wholeheartedly.

For those of you too time-constricted/lazy to read it, it basically holds up a hand in the classroom and has the temerity to ask "Why are vibrant female characters called strong?" Why are they limited to such a thing? More to the point, however, is why is the word "strong" slung in there at all? If you take away the strong bit, that leaves "female character"— but isn't a female character just as inherently strong as a male character? Why do they need "strong" in there at all?

People say to me all the time "Derek, you're great," and I can't argue with them. They go on to say "I love your black shirt/blue jeans combo" and I nod wisely, agreeing with them but not needing to put it into words. Then they say "It's so cool that your books have strong female characters" and I shrug, and say "Hey, I'm a pretty awesome guy. Now go get me some Skittles."

Valkyrie is a strong female character. As in, she's strong, she's female, and she's a character. But she is not a Strong Female Character. She's not a role model — not really. She's deeply, DEEPLY flawed. Over the course of these eight books, she's done some outstandingly heroic things, but she's also done some downright mean and nasty and selfish things. She's hurt people. She's become arrogant (and not in the cool way that I am).

Here's what Holly has to Twitter-say about the subject:

"Strength" is one dimensional. It's saying "women can be strong like men", NOT "women are flawed, complex, brilliant, weak LIKE MEN."

 I love it when readers don't like Valkyrie. I love it when they actively dislike her for the things she's done and the way she's behaved. But it's like they're surprised. It's like they can't compute. "Okay, wait, so... she saves the world but... but she's cheating on her boyfriend?? How is that POSSIBLE?"

Valkyrie is a character. She's as messed up as any male character I could ever write. That's what makes her real to me.

Having a girl as the protagonist in an action/adventure/horror/fantasy/whatever means things are going to get physical, and you all know how much I love my fight scenes. But having her kick ass is not why she's a good character.

Years ago, I was yapping to my mother about Buffy and Xena and talking about how great it is that we now have these TV shows about such strong female characters. My mother, who admittedly has never watched either show, asked me if these really WERE strong female characters, or if they were merely male characters with boobs.

Having a blonde cheerleader save the world with her martial arts skills doesn't equal feminism, she said. That's a male tactic. How about her saving the day using tactics that aren't all about punching and kicking and killing?

I didn't have an answer for her then. I still don't, even now. There's a whole debate to be had that I'm just not ready for, that I may never be ready for. My mother is a pacifist. I am not. We see the world differently, we operate differently, even though we want the same things. We both want equality and peace. My mother is the sort to talk her way to equality and peace. I'm the sort to talk to the point where I reckon more talk won't do any good, and then smash my way through to an understanding. It is not an enlightened viewpoint I hold. It is a crass, brutish viewpoint — but in a crass, brutish world, I believe my way is the way to go. Mum believes otherwise.

And that's the difference, I think, between us. We live in a world carved by men, where fear and oppression and violence are a part of our lives. I can't even IMAGINE a world sculpted by women, where other values have taken hold. I'm limited in that way. I could try not to be, but I honestly wouldn't know where to start. That's kind of sad, when you think about it. For all my imagination, I can't even imagine that...

... (turns to stare hauntingly out the window).



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Ulcabhán Brave said...

Thats Katy Perrys song btw.

Jophiel said...

I accident sent him three miles yesterday! It. Was. Awesome. And then I started dying from a coughing fit... Of laughter...

Dragona Pine said...

I have returned. And thanks to star and adra for commenting on my story. I appreciate the feedback.

Adra, yes that's you! Were you pleased with how I portrayed your character? You'll be in more parts too. Promise. ^^


And Star, I'm glad you don't have to read the action scenes again to understand. ^^

Jophiel said...

*accidently

Noelle said...

*trips, falling on the ground*
AIEEEEE

*curls into a ball* Plz dnt kyll me

Lewis Ravenscroft / Rhydian Blake said...

Adra! No!

#ChaseForBook9

Noelle said...

*tucks and somersaults further down a hill*

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

I think we all know what she wants to talk to you about Zaf. If you don't you are socially blind.

*gets up* Thank you Death, I now have proof my pendant of steel skin works, and won't have to kill the guy who sold it to me! Thanks!

#ChaseForBook9

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

...

I don't think they heard me.

#ChaseForBook9

Lewis Ravenscroft / Rhydian Blake said...

Zaf you in trouble or something?

#ChaseForBook9

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Well se hasnt come on yet and she said she would i mean im gonna have to go eat soon so i am not staying signed in forwver

Dragona Pine said...

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?sbk=1&nav=SEARCH&itemId=330904405563


That's an awesome poster. Would look good on my wall.

TheSmilingCat said...

HEY! YOHOU!!!! *waving around* What is this supposed to be? I mean... is this a chat? Or what? I need information! I am SO not good at blogland! HELP! *waves again and hopes that somebody sees me*

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

No idea Rhy all I know is Em wants to talk to me on Skype she said she's going on and she hasnt been so I kinda am waiting but leaving soon to eat dinner so

Noelle said...

*is not going to even START*

*slides to a stop at a cliff*

*sings* Should I stay or should I go

Lewis Ravenscroft / Rhydian Blake said...

Hey Cat! Thus us a chat type thing

#ChaseForBook9

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

TheSmilingCat I guess its a chat you can be your own person we tend to roleplay as our characters from SP and chat too so yeah not helpful but I tried

Star Inkbright said...

@Dragona: I often do with action scenes (and descriptive scenes. I think my brain gets bored :P), sooo.

@TheSmilingCat: We all met each otehr here on this blog. :) Most of us haven't seen each other in real life, and if we HAVE seen each other in real life, it's generally because we met up at signings.

Sorry I poofed, btw.

OOH, IS IT LYRICS TIME?
I LOVE LYRICS. :)

#ChaseForBookNine

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

Hello SmilingCat!

Sorry I didn't acknowledge your earlier comments...

#ChaseForBook9

Jophiel said...

*Glowers at Trip and sweeps at his feet*

Msd

Noelle said...

We are roleplaying and talking, Cat.

Zaf, it is because she is really fucking pissed off at you- as she should be. And if you were anything the friend you claim to be you sit on there and you wait.
-is so done with this-

I DO NOT HAVE ANY EMOTIONS TO GET WORKED UP OVER THIS

Lewis Ravenscroft / Rhydian Blake said...

Gtg now. I'll try am and go on Minecraft tomorrow. Bye!

#ChaseForBook9

Star Inkbright said...

@TheSmilingCat: We just chat, or roleplay, or both.
We treat Derek's blog as a chat room. XD
WE'RE SPECKLE LIKE THAT.

#ChaseForBookNine

TheSmilingCat said...

OKAY, so, you basically met here? Uhmm.... okay. Hi. That was stupid.
What kind of signings?

Noelle said...

Oh god Rhydian.

Finish it off for me, eh? ;D

Ulcabhán Brave said...

Rose i want you to listen to this song... it makes me feel good in myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9SeJIgWRPk

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

IAM waiting but I cant sit here all day! I am eating soon!

Ulcabhán Brave said...

and everyone else check it out. its a good song

Mary Contrary said...

Okay, I've spent hours on this game searching for somewhere to get steel, now, but I think it's beginning to dawn on me... Can you even MINE steel? o0


@TheSmilingCat: It's a place of awesome. We talk and roleplay and throw things and random/coolness. And we have cookies. *nods* :P

wbd/msd
#ChaseForBook9

Noelle said...

WEEEEE
*cliff dives*

Star Inkbright said...

Shit.

My A7X playlist has dour deleted videos.

I already spent over an hour replacing another deleted video that was on the playlist . . . *glares*

WHY DOES EVERYONE DELETE THEIR VIDEOS.

#ChaseForBookNine

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

Yes, we did.

And Derek's book signings. None in America. :-(

Reading through past comments and writing a really log speech.

@Star That scene was very emotionally powerful... I loved/hated it.

#ChaseForBook9

Dragona Pine said...

Star, kk. What I'm trying to do is give a correct amount of action and other things in my mass effect story. I hope I'm doing well with that. The newest part is obviously action based but the several parts beforehand were all to do with... Thomi? ^^

TheSmilingCat said...

Roleplay... wait, people actually do this? *looks back at earlier comments* Confusing...
The song is nice, btw

Dragona Pine said...

Brave, there's a new part of my mass effect story up. And your character will most likely feature in the next 2 parts.

Mary Contrary said...

Granted, they may be virtual cookies, but... Meh. :P ^^

*hugs Star* That sucks! D:
I hope you get some new ones in without too much trouble. ^^


wbd/msd
#ChaseForBook9

Noelle said...

*hits the water, going under*
*pushes off the bottom, resurfacing*

I... I think he's gone now..
*breathes out*

Sir said...

Adrasdos, I do believe your panic is most unwarranted.

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

Yes, we roleplay a lot, and it is confusing, but we manage the best we can!

#ChaseForBook9

Noelle said...

Yet.

Jophiel said...

*Is slightly dying of a coughing fit... Again...*

Jophiel said...

*Waves to Sharky and mentally curses colds*

Dragona Pine said...

My phone is just full of mass effect stuff. Soundboards, videos, walkthroughs, information, I even have the art of the mass effect universe book. Then some comics, the soundtracks, a mass effect game for android and pictures and wallpapers. My wallpaper atm is a planet under attack by the reapers. It's layered or something and looks cool.

Sir said...

Hello, Death Rose.

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

*kicks rocks* Oh screw this I'm signing off Skype its killing my iPod so no point anymore im leaving to eat 5-10min anyway

Dragona Pine said...

Reg, how are you?

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Sorry I poofed, my sister came into my room and just /had/ to read me an extract from her book.

#ChaseForBook9

Sir said...

I feel about as well as I can be expected to feel, Dragona.

Dragona Pine said...

That is good. It has been a while since we've talked.

Noelle said...

*slinks from the water, shivering*
*runs into secret caves that come up near Trip's bar*
*sneaks in, diving towards the wheelbarrow*

Sir said...

Indeed, Dragona.

Mary Contrary said...

Wait...

O.O

I don't need the steel to run the steelworks.

The steel is MADE in the steelworks.


*curls up in a corner because I spend HOURS searching xP *



*hands Death a cookie* :)

#ChaseForBook9

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

*steps out from the shadows right next to Adra* Want a drink Adra?

#ChaseForBook9

Mary Contrary said...

* spent

#ChaseForBook9

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Im going to eat be bac soonish

Dragona Pine said...

I believe it has been maybe a year or so? It is good to see you again.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Oh yeah, how is Blogland Minecraft going anyway? I'm dying to get back on.

#ChaseForBook9

Jophiel said...

*Huddles under blanket and sneezes*

Noelle said...

*jumps back, diving into the hole*
*hides at the bottom*

Sir said...

Yes indeed, it has been more than quite a while.

Noelle said...

*is like, crying with laughs* minecraft's GRAND

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

*follows Adra into the hole* Adra? Why are you so scared?

#ChaseForBook9

Dragona Pine said...

A very long while. A whole annum.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Anything new?
#ChaseForBook9

Star Inkbright said...

@TheSmilingCat: Book signings that Derek does. :)

@Nobody in particular: Actually, wait, I don't think they HAVE deleted. I think it's just YouTube fucking with me.
What the hell.
*frowns*

#ChaseForBookNine

Noelle said...

*just continues laughing*
Oh.
My god.

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

I think I'm gone now, sorry.

Maybe I'll be back in a while with a speechy-thing.

#ChaseForBook9

Jophiel said...

*Picks up blanket and stalks towards Adra and Trip* *Mutters something about stupid people*

Noelle said...

*hugs Star* It is okay. Youtube's a fucker.

Dragona Pine said...

*throws cheese at everyone*

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Bye Fabi!

What did you do to my bar?

#ChaseForBook9

Mary Contrary said...

What? ._.

The military just raided my village.
My TINY, INNOCENT village.
They killed a fifth of my population.
*mutters*


(This is kind of why I don't often let myself play games anymore, btw. I will not stop until I am finished. Completely.
I usually get to a point where I realise if I don't stop there, I never will, and quit before I can go on. But I think I passed that a while ago, now. :P )

#ChaseForBook9

Noelle said...

*hugs Fabilous* okay.
*shivers again, reaching for her backpack*
*does a circle*
*curses under her breath*
*slowly walks forward inch by inch to get around Trip*

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Did you burn it down? Or fill it with chickens? Or trap it?

#ChaseForBook9

Noelle said...

No! I did nothing! Everything is in grand condition!
*dashes past, running up the gap*

Jophiel said...

*Hugs Fabi*

Dragona Pine said...

Taia, mhm. That's like me and mass effect. If I could I'd play it all day until I was finished. One mission melts into the other and the next thing I know, 6 hours has passed.

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Adra, I can see your soul. I know you're trying to flank me, why? What's going on?

#ChaseForBook9

Jophiel said...

*Throws blanket at Trip and walks away*

Maralie Lily Charm said...

Hey, everyoneeee~

So, basically, I start secondary tomorrow. Primary to secondary is one of the hardest changes ever in Ireland, simply because if you don't study, you will fail your Junior Cert. Fail your Junior Cert, fail your Leaving Cert. Fail your Leaving Cert, and you will not get a job and quite possibly be homeless... -.-

So the pressure is on for me to ace my Junior Cert, which is in 3rd year. Three years from now.

So my mum is banning me from the internet.
It won't be easy, but I will try my hardest to get on here. I can't in school, because if I'm caught, I'm given four demerits. Get five demerits and you have detention. Get detention and you miss study. Miss study, fail your Leaving Cert. And so on.
But I'll try. I'll come here at the weekends. Maybe at night on weekdays, if my mum doesn't take my iPad away/turn off the wifi.

If I don't come back until, like, Christmas... Which is very likely... I'd like to say thank you. Thank you so much to every single one of you.
And I really should be sleeping now because tomorrow is hectic and with my birthday on Monday and LSODM and TIU and Liam's birthday on Thursday/Friday and my possible sleepover... Yeah.

*hugs everyone*
I'm going to quote Leeroy and say,
"Stay where you are, because you are per-fect!"

#ChaseForBook9

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

*flies after Adra, matching her speed, flying beside her*

So why are you running? Why are you scared?

#ChaseForBook9

Dragona Pine said...

Trip, do you require help in defending your bar?

Jophiel said...

*Hugs Mara tightly* I love you. Make sure you don't leave me, little sister. *Hugs tighter and is totally not crying*

Noelle said...

*hugs Mara* Hi!

Nope! No telling- you'll have to wait and see.
And then you'll murder Rhydian and me.
*climbs up, immediately going to her bag and grabbing a blanket*

Dragona Pine said...

Maralie, good luck and I hope you'll be able to come on.

Noelle said...

Wait.
Mars.
*tacklehugs* I love you so much you are like my little blog sister you don't understand- you have made my summer. *hugs tighter*

Star Inkbright said...

@Mara: Oh no! :'(

We'll miss you!!!

And, that's like England with GCSEs . . . BUT WHY IS INTERNET BANNED WHEN YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR JUNIOR CERT FOR TWO YEARS????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

:(

#ChaseForBookNine

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

What? Banning you from the internet for three years?

Also, I have big things coming up in a few years too, but you can't let your life revolve around them, no matter how much is at stake. We love you Mara, and thanks for broadening my horizons.

But heed my warning. Do not let it control your life.

#ChaseForBook9

Mary Contrary said...

Alright, Fabi. *hands her a cookie*

@Dragona: *nods* I do the same. What's worse is that I have some kind of compulsive need to collect every single thing there is to collect. All the tiny little tasks and flags and whatnot. It's so frustrating. :P
This isn't a complex game, though. At all. It's all just black and white text. That's it. But I need to finish it, now... :P

#ChaseForBook9

Dragona Pine said...

Star, did you read what I said up there about the balance between action and stuff?

Ulcabhán Brave said...

Aw i really hope i see you before CHRISTMAS mara. enjoy your possible sleepover. I gtg. byye

Noelle said...

Bye Brave! *waves*

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Wait. You're running from me because you did something to my minecraft bar?



















Adra. Please, I need to know.

That bar is the best thing I ever made, well not really, but my favourite thing I've ever made. What did you do?

#ChaseForBook9

Star Inkbright said...

@Dragona: Yes, but I'm so distant and YouTube was filling my mind so I forgot about it. *facepalm*
I think you have a good balance, so far. *nods*

I LOVE AVENGED SEVENFOLD.

#ChaseForBookNine

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Bye Brave!

#ChaseForBook9

Star Inkbright said...

EVEN I'M LAUGHING NOW, AND I DON'T EVEN HAVE MINECRAFT. XD

#ChaseForBookNine

Dragona Pine said...

Taia, same! You wouldn't believe the amount of time I spend during a mission just exploring and going around in circles to find every stash of credits, every weapon, every armour piece, every medical station.

And today that paid off. I found my favourite rifle after I stole it from Cerberus hehe. Its called the mattock and is semi-automatic but is extremely powerful and can be fired quickly. It's heavy but its good and it makes an awesome sound.

Mary Contrary said...

*huggles Mara* Best of luck to you, then. I hope you can get on without it causing you trouble.
I'll look forward to seeing you, whenever it might be.
*hands her a cookie* Try not to forget how awesome you are between now and then, too, okay? :)


#ChaseForBook9

Maralie Lily Charm said...

My mum said, for now, I am officially banned. I have no clue when I am officially /not/ banned, nor do I know why I /am/ banned in the first place.

I will hopefully still be reachable by email (maralielilycharm@gmail.com) and I must go now bye.

#ChaseForBook9

Noelle said...

How the hell am I supposed to say no to that?
Though, I suppose, that is the point.
No. I didn't do anything.
Everything is intact- I would NEVER burn it down or anything.
Ahem.
But we may have raided the stock.
Again- it is somewhere safe. Just not in the bar ;D
*runs up into her nook, hiding in the pile of blankets*

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

MARA YOU'RE AMAZAYN AND PERRIEFECT AND ZERRIEFIC AND SEE YOU SOON I HOPE [hugs tightly]

#ChaseForBook9

Noelle said...

*hugs Mara* ily bbz

Dragona Pine said...

Thanks, Star. The next one will be slight action but more story. Maybe 50-50 between the two. But the action contributes to the story anyway.

Noelle said...

Oh. And we'll put them back

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

One more question, are we still in creative?

#ChaseForBook9

Mary Contrary said...

@Dragona: Yes! Awesome! Good find, by the sounds of it. :)

Y'know some games where you'll be given a rating for your level/task/mission/performance/whatever? I tend to have to complete each one to the best possible rating before I move onto the next one.
On some games, I don't follow that, but, like, puzzle-based games especially. I have things on my iPod that I'd been on the very same puzzle/level for weeks because I can't pick up an extra 1,000 points anywhere. xP

#ChaseForBook9

Noelle said...

Thanks.

I TOLD you you'd want to kill us.

We still are. *giggles*

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Oh, well then I have no problems.

Also, I may have been guilty of a little manipulation there. Sorry for all that, you now, using your good nature to obtain the I formation I needed.

But what I said /was/ true. It is my favourite.

#ChaseForBook9

Noelle said...

Why is it quiet.

I don't like this

Noelle said...

*growls from under the blankets* I'm not that mean.
Well.
Not to you.

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Poor Mara...*sighs* thats stupid banning because you're having your Junior Cert in 2yrs...

Noelle said...

Though, when you do get on, I have to show you the lab!!

Duck said...

SIX MORE DAYS UNTIL LAST STAND OF DEAD MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#YOLO
#ChaseForBook9

Dragona Pine said...

Mass effect isn't like that. Some missions can be failed and you can still continue the game regardless, admittedly with consequences. Mostly it relies on decisions, though. You can practically choose the outcome of every mission and everything you do can have a positive or negative effect on the story.

But the closest thing I can relate to with mass effect is probably the suicide mission on me2. If you didn't give the right person the right job then your team started dying. Same if they weren't loyal. My first play through had one of my favourite characters (and who I accidentally started a relationship with) being shot in the head. So I restarted, trying to get a perfect ending. And then no one died but a bitchy woman so I was fine with that. :)

Mary Contrary said...

I'm gonna go.

*offers everybody both hugs and cookies*

Bye!

*wanders away singing TFL's When You Smile C:*

#ChaseForBook9

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Lucky to see it all of you :/ it hurts sitting here never able to because i cant go get the game because stuff and it sucks like hell wishing i could even go on but i cant and never will be able to so

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

I've seen it. Unless you've changed it since a week and a half ago.

#ChaseForBook9

Dragona Pine said...

Bye Taia!



I should go now too. I have a book to read. Bye!

http://masseffectfanfiction.blogspot.com

Noelle said...

Hi Duck! Bye Taia!

And yeah... I did, actually.
*nods* It's awesomely awesome.
And it is the place to be.
Ultimate hangout ftw

Jophiel said...

*Starts shivering* Stupid Aussie weather...

Noelle said...

Bye Dragona

Duck said...

What's the Minecraft world called??
I wanna join!!

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Bye Dragona...

Guess have fun on Minecraft i shall never see it so

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

I'm gonna go. I need some sleep. See you all soon, bye!

#ChaseForBook9

Noelle said...

*jumps down, hugging him and then kissing his cheek*
Good to know I'm not dying!
*runs back up to her nook*

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

Hello...

Still writing a speech. Actually, it's turning into a video ded without the ded part. So, a video. Yeah.

Distantly here...

#ChaseForBook9

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

*sits waiting* Maybe Ari will come on

Noelle said...

*grins, pulling herself into a giggling cocoon* Rude...

*shrugs*

Alexis said...

not rude just crazy

Noelle said...

Not you, just Trip. *nods*
*giggles again*

Emerald Melody said...

We can have this out on the blog Zaf or we can do it privately.

But giving the circumstances with everything that has happened with me and Death and the fact that everyone is feeling a bit fragile right now, I suggest that we do it privately.

Do you agree??

Alexis said...

yes and i am replying as Alexis as my iPOod is having fun with going on Skype

Jophiel said...

And this is where I leave... Sorry Em...

Noelle said...

Not really Trip- I'm joking. He's adorable.
*nods enthusiastically*
Not that I think he liked being called that

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

[hugs Em]

I'm glad you're alive.

#ChaseForBook9

Alexis said...

Trip is adorable I guess...

Emerald Melody said...

I wish I could say the same Fabi...

Noelle said...

He is, though! Completely, surprisingly clueless sometimes... *grins* But that's okay

Alexis said...

Most guys are clueless like Daddy when Mommy hints she wants something he just looks all confused for an hour

Jophiel said...

Em... I really shouldn't have said that... I was just pissed... And there was this idiot who pulled a gun to my head... I was... Chaotic... I couldn't think straight... I'm really, truly sorry...

I'm a bitch. I'm fucked up.

I'm sorry.

Emerald Melody said...

Stop apologising Death.

You have not fucked up or done anything wrong.

Stop. Saying. Sorry.

Jophiel said...

I did do something wrong...

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

[hugs]

#ChaseForBook9

Noelle said...

*shrugs* It is true, Alexis.

But it isn't their fault.
I think we are too complicated..

Emerald Melody said...

What did you do wrong?

Cause from where I've been watching from, you've done nothing wrong at all.

Snow said...

hi all!!

only here for a bit

msd

Jophiel said...

Don't tell me you forgot that comment already..?

Alexis said...

Yeah we soooo are

Snow said...

um... whats going on??

*is puzzled*

Emerald Melody said...

Death, come onto gmail and we'll talk on there.

And I'm sorry to say that yes I've forgotten, I've had a rough couple of days.

Jophiel said...

Kay... But I'm likely to disappear in a few minutes...

Snow said...

*is completely confuzzled*

huh??

Noelle said...

Hi Snow

Yeah...

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

Hi Snow [hugs]

#ChaseForBook9

Alexis said...

explosions ugh the dynamite forest is ripe

Snow said...

no one is doing anything to cease my un-easy.

Alexis said...

i have cookies if you want Snow

Snow said...

okay... *takes a cookie*

*is still unsure of what is going on*

Snow said...

g2g, byee!!

Snow said...

*huggles all*

Snow said...

oh, for....

will ded later, byee

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

I don't know how to help...sorry...

[hugs everyone]

I think I'm going to go. See you.

#ChaseForBook9

Noelle said...

Bye Fabi, Snow. *nods*

Alexis said...

Bye Fabi

Noelle said...

*salsas from the nook*

Alexis said...

Adra where are you?

Noelle said...

In a nook

Alexis said...

Oh...can I come?

Noelle said...

Nope!

Alexis said...

Awww

Noelle said...

Sorry!

Alexis said...

Iskips around the lake* laalalaalalalala! *is grinning with Coco bear in hand*

Alexis said...

My friend who is a jumior wants to carpool on thursdays to school, fuck no. She hasnt got a permit yet ill pass as i rather live to see tomorrow

Noelle said...

My brothers just got their licenses. It isn't too shoddy

Alexis said...

She just is getting her permit...yeah no i'd rather wait until she drove a little more...i do value my life a lot

Noelle said...

Sometimes you just gotta trust people

Alexis said...

Not her...she would get us killed i told her in the spring ill do it but not winter no way with icy roads ect i rather trust my mother to drive me in as she has had experience with icy roads and stuff like that

Noelle said...

Ah

Alexis said...

So Adra can i try Tumblesoz?

Alexis said...

Can I try anything? Please?

Noelle said...

No, Alexis.

Alexis said...

*sighs* I want to train...anything *sits by lake*

I'm Jubilance Glee / Occasional Haiku-er / And a dinosaur said...

HELLOOOO

Alexis said...

Hi Jubi!

Noelle said...

Hi jubi

I'm Jubilance Glee / Occasional Haiku-er / And a dinosaur said...

ADRA!!!! ALEXIS!!!! *supermegatacklehugsofdoom*


HAAII!!!


msd

Noelle said...

KK!

Alexis said...

I like to wander the lake...*grins* reminds me of the days Daddy spent with me

Noelle said...

Wow- ME TOO!!

Alexis said...

Really Adra?

Noelle said...

... No. That... That was a dark joke. Nevermind.

Alexis said...

Okay! You wanna make s'mores?

Noelle said...

Not particularly. But don't let my not participating stop you

Alexis said...

Oh okay *goes and finds firewood and makes it into a fire pit and then clicks fingers setting wood on fire* I need. A stick. *goes and finds stick and cooks marshmellows

Noelle said...

*Sings* Shatter every window until it's all blown away...

Alexis said...

you ok?

Noelle said...

I'm fine

Alexis said...

you sure?

Noelle said...

Positively.

Alexis said...

ok i hope you are fine

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