Wednesday, March 9, 2016

Derek Landy's I-Scream Spectacular!*

* may not contain ice-cream.

Behold the awesome!

On April 5th, in London, as part of my tour, we are offering a day at the movies, where I will be discussing the many movie influences that have shaped my life and, more specifically, that have shaped the Demon Road trilogy.

We are breaking the day into two halves.

At 1 PM, younger readers, accompanied by an adult, can go to the Picturehouse Cinema in London and experience 80's comedy-horror classic GREMLINS on the big screen...! It'll be my first time seeing it up there too — I've only ever seen this film on TV, so I am HUGELY excited.

Desolation will be available to buy, I'll be doing a Q&A, and signing whatever you have. It's going to be FUN.


And then we'll be repeating the format at 8:30 that night, when we'll be showing the original A Nightmare on Elm Street to a STRICTLY over-18 crowd...!

Again, I was too young to see this in the movies when it came out, and as one of my all time favourite horrors, I can't wait to see this in all its glory.
Come! See Johnny Depp get blender-ised in his Bed of Death!
Naturally, anyone 18 or over can come to both movies and make a day of it — as I will be — but sadly the younger Minions can not savour the delights of Freddy Krueger — at least not until you're older...

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Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

(*hugs Viv*
*dont care that I'm 25 minutes late*)

Vivanus Keen said...

(*hugs back* is everything ok?)

LaurenXIV said...

Woooowwww theres a character in skyrim called babette and she just reminds me of what Jai said about Silente...

... babette is a child she looks about 10 but shes actually 300 because shes a vampire and when I first walked into the assassin hideout she was telling a story about how she murdered an old man... super weird ;)

Then again this is the same organization who hired an insane jester who is also an assassin so uh... a murderous child vampire is a little more normal haha ;)

Noelle said...

Noelle needs to restrict..

Vivanus Keen said...

(*waves* hi Noelle! Why must you restruct?)

Vivanus Keen said...

(If anyone's on, I can with Jag for a little while... Or Sortilege)

Vivanus Keen said...

(If anyone's on, I can *rp with Jag for a little while... Or Sortilege)

Inky Flame said...

(+sneaks up on viv*)

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *stands, helping Alys up too*
Come on.. Let's go grab Flauros and then go home..

Michael: That's not what I'm trying to do!!! You think I'm trying to break her apart?! I'm not! But that doesn't mean I'm not going to visit Flauros and you can't stop me.

Inky Flame said...

Alys: o okay

Flauros: everyone will stop you

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *puts an arm around her shoulders supportively*
*starts walking back the way they came*

Michael: well it's not everyone else's choice!!!

Inky Flame said...

Dustin: *has disappeared *

Alys: *looks down*

Flauros: do you think they'd let you near her after what you've done?

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *squeezes her shoulders gently*
You'll be okay..


Michael: it isn't their CHOICE Flauros!
*glares at him slightly*
I will be visiting.

Inky Flame said...

Alys: I w will have to b be

Flauros: and cause her more hurt?

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *holds her close gently*
Hey, you can do this you know?
*spots Flauros and sees he's still with michael*
Ah. Wait a second..


Michael: I'm not going to hurt her!

Inky Flame said...

Alys: o okay?

Flauros: you will.. Emotionally

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *squeezes her shoulders again gently*
*watches curiously*


Michael: FINE! You know what, if you're so hard set against me not visiting then I won't.
*glares at him furiously*
I though I was trying to do a good thing, I though my "family" would be supportive of me coming home now and again but you know what? Clearly you aren't.

Inky Flame said...

Flauros: we won't let you hurt her anymore. You know she's in a fragile state

Alys: *spots michael*

Vivanus Keen said...

(*it's actually a statue of Viv, dressed to deceive *)

Inky Flame said...

(*pounces on statue*)

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

(*rolls eyes at Vivanus*)

Michael: well then I guess you won't have to worry about that anymore. The counts possessions are yours, I don't exactly have any need for them now, do I.
*glares at him*
I'll leave you to tell everyone the good news.
*turns and storms off, not bothering to wait for his reply*

Tresha: *winces very slightly*
*clears her throat*
Okay.. Let's go grab Flauros and go home..

Inky Flame said...

Alys: *nods shakingly*

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *walks out to Flauros with Alys, glancing at the disappearing Michael just as he passes through the tree line*

Inky Flame said...

Alys: g good bye michael..

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Michael: *freezes past the treeline, his ears faintly managing to pick up her whisper*
*sighs, running a hand through his hair and squaring his shoulders*
*continues walking away*

Tresha: come on.. Let's get back inside..

Vivanus Keen said...

(*tags inky from behind* haha!)

Inky Flame said...

Flauros: *gruns* okay

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *looks at Alys*


Michael: *bows his head, jogging away*
*he's still angry at Flauros..*

Vivanus Keen said...

(You feeling better Sil?)

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

(Yes I am, thank you. Just minor stress today xD)

Star Inkbright said...

Going back to personality type conversation -

I'm fairly borderline with F/T and fairly borderline with N/S, so the description of INFP doesn't fit me as well as it does some people. My mum is ENFP and all her traits are 70% or above, so it fits her really well. :)

INFPs are not, in general, very logical/cynical (I mean, they're F and P :P), so for an INFP I am pretty logical/cynical. Against the average person I'm just sort of meh. I seem pretty logical/cynical here because you're all pretty nice (half of you are INFPs XD), but my friends and family are generally very logical/cynical so to them I'm like one of the least logical/cynical people. XD

LaurenXIV said...

Haha star the INFP description fits me pretty perfectly apart from one smalllll little part but that isnt anything major :)

Star Inkbright said...

Yeah. :) I think the description fit my thirteen-year-old self better than my now-self, as well; I've been working really hard on being more realistic as opposed to optimistic for the past few years and it has left an effect. However, in general, it fits close enough; better than ISFP or INTP.

LaurenXIV said...

Haha honestly my opinions havent changed much since I was like 10 I still often quote a little rhyme I wrote haha im still stupid and naïve ;) Less innocent of course but my now self isnt soooooo different to my ten year old self :)

Star Inkbright said...

Huh. I've changed soooo much from my ten-year-old self . . .
However much I change, though, I reckon my INFP core is still buried in there. :)

LaurenXIV said...

Haha let your INFP core out star :) join us!

I still act like a 10 year old really ;) theres no point in being mature! and apparently I look young also people usually say I look like 18-20 instead of you know 26/nearly 27 but whatever ;) Im always getting carded :(

LaurenXIV said...

i actually still go and bury apple seeds in the garden like i did when i was younger+lived in Minnesota... i was always hoping for an apple tree forest... i still am... but it hasnt happened yet haha... but im staying hopeful ;)

Star Inkbright said...

Mmh well I think being more mature is a lot like analysing media. When I analyse books and films, Lizzie always has a go at me and tells me to stop overthinking and just enjoy it. However, I actually derive an awful lot of enjoyment from the overthinking, and often will only watch certain books/films due to fun I get from overanalysing them. Really, the purpose in overanalysing is exactly the same as the purpose in watching the film in the first place. I mean, it's fictional. It's only purpose is to provide me with entertainment. But apparently the purpose of entertainment is worthwhile enough that plenty of people watch films purely for entertainment all the time. If pure entertainment is a worthy purpose, why can I not analyse purely for entertainment?
My point is - it may look boring to some people, but everyone has a different version of 'fun,' and if it provides them with entertainment, there's a purpose to it, however small.

Really, one can define 'being mature' in various ways. I don't like the idea of stopping oneself from doing fun activities because one thinks they are too old for them . . . but I embrace some aspects of being mature, such as learning to be a decent human being and to treat others like decent human beings. My year group (Americans may refer to my year group as 'my grade') this year is so much more mature than they all were several years ago, and by that I don't mean "we don't have any fun anymore" . . . by that, I mean "they're actually decent humans beings that you can have an intelligent conversation with." I didn't really like anything in my year group a few years ago, but now there's barely anyone I dislike. They've really grown up, and I appreciate that immensely.

Being a ten-year-old is to be less restricted (I mean, the natural state of being a ten year old. Ten-year-olds are much more restricted in some ways as they have so little independence). Sure, you can just sort of walk in circles for no reason, and you can have fun without feeling like an idiot or like people are judging you. But you're also much less liekly to know (and tehrefore do) what's good for you and otehrs. You're much more likely to be thoughtless and careless.

I wouldn't want to go back to being a ten-year-old. I mean, I guess it's a bit like dying in some ways. One of the reason I don't want to die because it'll cause pain to people, but when I'm dead, I won't be aware of the pain my death has caused. I won't have to worry. But whilst I'm still alive, I still have to worry about these things, and I can't get past the worry enough to kill myself (also, I don't want to die for otehr reasons, but there you do). Same with being a ten year old, I guess. I don't want to give up my mental maturity, and I won't miss it when it's gone, but I pre-emptively miss it now. I enjoy having the thoguht level of an adult. I enjoy THINKING. I enjoy being aware. Life is utterly pointless. I'd be happier if I didn't know about that, but I don't want to un-know it. I don't want to be blind.

It's probably something to do with being a hoarder.

Star Inkbright said...

(See? I think much too deeply. :P But I enjoy it.)

Inky Flame said...

(Here)

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *looks at Alys in concern*


Michael: *bows his head, jogging away*
*he's still angry at Flauros..*
*jogs to the counts house*

Inky Flame said...

Alys: *looks down at the floor* w well then..

*in the count house, a girl appears*
*a past reincarnation of Alys in facts*
*is totally human, no trace of fox*
*has shorter hair and darker skin than present Alys, but has the same eyes, albeit tinged with greed and a need for wealth*

Past Alys, *sneaks around, dagger in hand*

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *squeezes her shoulders gently*
It'll be okay.

Michael: *slips in through the door, sighing and leaning back against the wood, closing his eyes*
*stands up, walking towards the stairs*

Inky Flame said...

Alys: *looks down at the floor* w will it?

Past Alys; *hears the stairs and hides

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: It will.. I'm sure it will.


Michael: *walks to the counts bedroom, pushing the door open and hoping there isn't a dead count inside*

Inky Flame said...

Flauros: you're better off without him

Past Alys: *is hiding in that room*
+holds breath*

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *doesnt say anything about that

Michael: *looks around, glad the counts body isn't still there*
*hums, pulling open one of his draws, smiling at the giant bag of gold coins there*
Good..

Inky Flame said...

Alys: m maybe..

Past Alys: *goes up behind him and holds her dagger to his throat* don't say a word

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: at least now you can focus on you and on Charlotte?

Michael: *freezes, ears pricking straight up*
*grits his teeth but speaks quietly*
Who are you and what do you want?

Inky Flame said...

Alys: t true..

Past Alys: all your gold

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: Itll be okay Alys.


Michael: *drops the sack of gold on the floor, kicking it to her with his foot gently*

Inky Flame said...

Alys: I j just hoped he w would stay...

Past Alys: that all?

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: I know..


Michael: yeah. That's all.
*doesnt care that he knows there's more in this house, that bag could probably keep a thief going for quite a while*

Inky Flame said...

Alys: I it shows I m mean nothing t to him so I sh shouldn't worry..

Past Alys: I don't buy you

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: Maybe he just wasn't the one?

Michael: Search me, I have no more.
*his ears are twitching, alert*

Inky Flame said...

Alys: I it felt p pretty real t to me

Past Alys: you must have more, look at this mansion! Mansions always have a hidden vault..

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: I know it did.. It'll turn out okay Alys..

Michael: Not all of them.
*bites his lip*

Noelle said...

Because she is too big

Inky Flame said...

Alys: w what doesn't kill y you makes y you s stronger ?

Past Alys: I don't buy you *digs the dagger into his throat slightly

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

(Noelle isn't too big.)

Tresha: Exactly.
*smiles at her*

Michael: Okay, okay. Just take it easy here, I've only just inherited this pla-
*swiftly raises his arm up to trap her knife arm behind the elbow so she can't move it, his other hand shooting up to grab her knife wrist*

LaurenXIV said...

Oh wow star haha :)

I over think things also i think :)

I think ive got more experience than when I was 10... well definitely for sure but my core beliefs are kinda the same I guess... I think I was a mature kid but a immature adult haha

Im scared of dying... and part of/most of the reason is the effect itd have on the people I love... ummmm i tried to kill myself when I was 15 i tried to overdose but I got scared and well I survived but I was super ill and was in hospital for a long time after... I took a lot of pills but after a while i just got scared and backed out and didnt take anymore... it just kinda dawned on me what i had done... I just remember panicking... I ran downstairs and told my mom and she called 911... i guess my fear and my anxiety and my worry is kinda the reason im talking to you now ;)

Thank you for that uh sorry *absorbing* :) that was interesting and I think I agree with everything you said :)

Inky Flame said...

Alys: *whispers* b but it's killing me inside

Past Alys: ow! *accidentally time travels to her time in the past, about fifty years before*

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *hugs her tightly*
It'll be okay..


Michael: *blinks in confusion*
What just happened??

Inky Flame said...

(*hugs everyone*)

Alys: *hugs and cries*

Past Alys: *curses* I must've been in another time!

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

(*hugs Chloe back*)

Tresha: *holds her gently, rubbing soothing circles on her back, gently shushing her*
It's okay..


Michael: wait what?! What do you mean?! What just happened??

Star Inkbright said...

@Lauren: :) :)

My biggest reason for not wanting to die is just that I'm scared of it . . .

I'm glad you didn't kill yourself. :)

Inky Flame said...

Flauros: *stands there awkwardly*

Past Alys: you're here?! *sighs and pulls her hair in frustration$

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *looks at Flauros*
*mouthes the word tea*


Michael: where the hell are we?!
*looks at her now he isn't at knife point*
*frowns, his brows furrowing slightly*

Feraaaa32 said...

I am the most fucked up person on the planet.

Feraaaa32 said...

which is quite the achievement.

Inky Flame said...

Flauros: *grunts and goes back*

Alys: *snuffles* c Charlotte must n need feeding now

Past Alys: *pounts to him* you're from the f future *stutters a little, which she does sometimes, where Alys gets it from*

(Elaborate FERA?)

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: do you want me to come up with you?


Michael: no I'm not! I'm from the present!

Feraaaa32 said...

I'd rather not. I am about to change so...I'd rather just try and not talk to anyone. I'll just hurt them.

LaurenXIV said...

I tried star haha

Fera dont say that youre not at all!!!

Inky Flame said...

(Okay...)

Alys: *nods*

Past Alys: no, you're from the future!

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *takes her hand, walking upstairs with her*
*moral support and all that*


Michael: I'm from 2016, the PRESENT!

Inky Flame said...

Alys; *walks shakingly*

Past Alys: it's 1966!

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *watches her carefully, worried for her*

Michael: it's WHAT?!
*stares at her in shock*
No, it's 2016, it's not 1966, it can't be! I wasn't even alive then!

Inky Flame said...

Alys: *keeps head down and walks into Charlottes room*

Past Alys: idiot I'm a time traveller! I sometimes do it by accident *looks around* now what to do with you..

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *walks in after her*

Michael: No. No. No, this can't be happening no. I'm not.. I'm not in 1966!

Inky Flame said...

Alys: *scoops up the baby and starts feeding her*

Past Alys: you are! Now shut up! I need to think..

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *looks at the wall politely*
So..


Michael: *stares at her, dumbfounded*
Who ARE you?!

Inky Flame said...

Alys: hmmm?

Past Alys: the name is .. Al

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: what are you going to do now..?

Michael: Well Al I am not meant to BE here so take me back!

Vivanus Keen said...

(There's been another shooting. What the heck is the world becoming?)

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

(Three cops shot dead and three injured, too early to know much else, it's thought that there are three gunmen, one of which is thought dead with the other two at large..)

Vivanus Keen said...

(Europe is dealing with terrorist attacks, America is facing internal and external violence from terrorists and just race violence, South America is rife with corruption, Africa lives in fear of terror attacks they aren't equipped to neutralize, and Asia has pretty much all of that mixed into one...)

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

(And a partridge in a pear tree.)

Inky Flame said...

(There has?

Hey Viv)

Alys: s survive and l look after Charlotte..

Al: I can't yet! *thinks* maybe I can sell you on..

Vivanus Keen said...

(Sil, do you mind if I ask how you feel about the UK leaving the EU?)

Vivanus Keen said...

(And you too Inky?)

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *nods*
And eventually live?

Michael: sell me on?!
*his tail is slightly fluffed up in anger, ears twitching and nearly laying against his head*


(Ah Brexit. I personally was not a supporter of Brexit however I understand that some people are and that isn't wrong or bad, it's just what they think is best.)

Inky Flame said...

(I'd rather keep my thoughts private on that)

Alys: m maybe

Al: *shouts put* anyone want to buy this guy? Look at his ears and tail' you know that's rare around these parts!

Vivanus Keen said...

(But their preference is going to affect you for the rest of your life)

Vivanus Keen said...

(That's fine, Inky. :-)

Inky Flame said...

(I've just.. My Facebook was filled of hateful comments )

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

(It is, but I can't change anything now, and I don't want to start arguments. If Brexit is what we have then we may as well make the best of Brexit. Maybe a change will turn out to be good, maybe it won't, either way we'll work through it.)

Tresha: Eventually
*nods*


Michael: Hey!
*clams a hand over her mouth, pulling her close tightly*
*growls*
Shut the hell up. I'm not being turned into a slave again.

Inky Flame said...

Alys: h how do you get o over someone?

Al: you know nothing of slavery!

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: it takes time.. Eventually the hurt just doesn't hurt as much anymore..


Michael: You know nothing of my past.
*lets her go, glaring at her*
You brough me here, you're taking me back.

Inky Flame said...

Alys: I h hope you're right

Al; I can't

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *smiles at her gently*
*doesnt voice her reply of 'so do I'*

Michael: not the right answer! Take me back to my time, time traveler!
*glares down at her*

Vivanus Keen said...

(Inky, that wouldn't happen here.
And Sil, I agree. Neither way would work without everyone cooperating)

Inky Flame said...

Alys: *burps Charlotte€

Al: *glares back* I can't!

Inky Flame said...

(People have already voiced their opinions here)

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

(@Viv exactly)

Tresha: *smiles*
Greedy baby.


Michael: you HAVE to!

Vivanus Keen said...

(@Inky: Oh really? Were they hateful?)

Inky Flame said...

(Not hateful.. But not happy about the result either )

Alys: she is *puts her to bed*

Al; I can only do it twice in a day!

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *smiles*
She's beautiful.


Michael: *grits her teeth*
Then take me back tomorrow.

Vivanus Keen said...

(I can imagine. There was only a 2% majority. Which I think is silly. The referendum should have required a super majority to leave. But since that wasn't stipulated before hand, I think it's only fair to respect what was decided and move forward.)

Inky Flame said...

(My sentiments exactly)

Alys: s she is..

Al; will you give me all your wealth?

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: she has her mummies eyes.


Michael: No! I need it to save the Furries!

Inky Flame said...

Alys; y you think?

Al: furries? What the hell?

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: yes
*smiles*
Beautiful eyes.


Michael: They're being made slaves of. Sold and bought like house hold objects.

Vivanus Keen said...

(It's a shame about Camerom though)

Inky Flame said...

Alys: *smiles slightly*

Flauros: *comes in* tea is ready

Al: couldn't care less *thinks* if I sold you into slavery I could make a killing

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

(Mmm...)

Tresha: Thank you Flauros.
*smiles, looking at Alys*


Michael: *steps into her personal space, glaring down at her*
No. You aren't kidnapping me then forcing me into slavery. You'll take me back to my time tomorrow.

Inky Flame said...

Alys: t thank you Flauros..

Al: can you make me? *glares directly into his eyes*

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: come on, let's go eat.
*hums, walking down the stairs slightly*


Michael: do you really want to out up with me for the next who knows how many years?

Inky Flame said...

Alys: +follows*

Al: you'll be someone else's problem not mine

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

Tresha: *walks to the kitchen, humming merrily*

Michael: *growls at her*
You aren't getting rid of me unless you've left me in my time.

Vivanus Keen said...

(His last PMQs were great)

Noelle said...

I'm not scared of death.
I don't know if I don't want to die, either.

Vivanus Keen said...

(@Adra: what are your thoughts on life?)

Vivanus Keen said...

(Are you scared of life?)

Feraaaa32 said...

fuck my life.

Noelle said...

Life is bad
Life is good

I have had my episodes before with life
(Which, when my contribution to the Love Thy Enemy campaign is posted, I will put the link on this blog)
And it has really shitty parts
Parts so bad that it is indescribable.

But those don't discredit the good, nor necessarily erase it from happening.

I am trying to be more open to the good. It's hard, and I'm not good at it, but it is something that I am working on.

LaurenXIV said...

I hate the word Brexit... I dont know why... I just dont like it... it isnt a nice word... its almost like someone purposely made it to go #Brexit... maybe another part of the reason they won was because they had the shorter # (I assume)... people are weird... to be honest i expected more uh riots or something from the uk and protests i mean not all you guys voted to be poorer so youre being made poorer because of choices that werent yours and the people who DID vote to be poorer were lied to ;) where are the protests guys??? ;)

Star Inkbright said...

Well, you see, Remain voters are more likely to be reasonable people, so . . .
(I'm not trying to suggest that you can't have reasonable Vote Leave people - of course you can, there are tons. Remain voters are MORE LIKELY to be reasonable, as most of the unreasonable people are Vote Leave. (Though of course you have Remain voters like Lizzie's dad, who only voted Remain to annoy Lizzie's brother XD)).
Yeah. Our post-Brexit protests are more along the lines of "No more Polish scum."

Also, a lot of people still think that as we're Brexitting, we're going to get rid of the immigrants and get a load more money . . . a lot of my mum's clients are of that opinion.


I like the word Brexit, but then I personally love "Br" at the beginning of a word, particularly when said word involves a "t." That's why part of my name has the word "bright" in. XD

Inky Flame said...

(I'm hungry
No food here
Feel sick
Ugh)

Star Inkbright said...

@Chloe: :(

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

(Yeah. Unfortunately the protests are against polish people *BRING IT, COME AT ME. DONT CARE IF IM NOT FULL POLISH LEAVE THE PEOPLE ALONE* Plus we really can't be bothered protesting noisily because it never works. There have been a lot of petitions through.)

Jai (Silente Tempest - St Of Sinners) said...

(*huggles Chloe*)

Mary Contrary said...

Pretty sure there have been actual protests against Brexit, especially in London because they had a remain majority. But I mean, like Star said, the whole idea of wanting to remain in the EU is so unoffensive (it's not asking to kick anyone out, it's not raving at the possibility of a little more £££ (or a little less), it's just remaining a part of the EU, y'know. It's ultimately, staying the same as we were before, and that's not to say Remainers don't care about it, but it's hardly a very violent prospect, really.) it's like... The majority of unhappy Remain voters probably do not fit too well into the 'rioting' mindset by nature of making the less wild decision, as they did in the referendum.

And of course, there are gonna be Brexitters who voted under the promise of more money for the UK and were sorely mistaken - and I'm surprised I haven't heard anything about protests on that part, because they got cheated, really.

The other thing is that, the aftermath of Brexit in our politics has been a continual stream of 'oh my god what is this disaster' (I think it's safe to say the brexshit hit the fan) and there's just not the time to protest about /everything/ right now. We found out that /nobody/ actually planned for what to do if we voted to leave the EU; David Cameron resigned; almost the entirety of the shadow cabinet fell out of their seats; Labour is basically entirely in pieces and trying their hardest to get rid of Corbyn who won't budge; we almost had Boris Johnson for prime minister, but then he dropped out of the race and apparently so did everyone else who was running which left Theresa May to become PM by default; Theresa sacked a few of the politicians we've been hoping would get gone, but she had to get people to replace them, which leaves us with Boris (who, to pick an incident, claimed that Obama was anti-British because of his 'part-Kenyan' ancestry. I think there have been a lot of semi-closeted racist remarks from Boris over the years) as Foreign Secretary (which I believe is also one of the most senior roles in our government) - apparently just so Theresa could have someone to blame for Brexit; and on top of that, the Tories could call for a general election, which they'd almost certainly win because of the state of Labour recently, and then an awful lot of people would have to spend another 4 years with a conservative government they didn't really want, or didn't want at all.

So I mean. The Brexit process is gonna take some time, whereas the political aftermath is still panning out. Just following that takes enough time and energy without going out and rioting over what the (albeit bare) majority of the U.K. voted for, I guess.

Mary Contrary said...

*5 years, not 4

Damn that comment started out so short what's wrong with me how does this happen
Also I probably made some genuine mistakes in there, I'm just a small person who reads a lot of news articles, so like, don't listen to me that much??

*hugs Chloe*
Hope you got something to eat & are feeling a bit better by now :(

LaurenXIV said...

... I think anyone who protests in a racist way should be locked up in jail in the country they were protesting against... seems fair really ;)
I just... to me its a bad decision for you guys and its a bad thing to happen and its caused bad things and a lot of negativity and im kinda expecting someone to say no this shouldnt happen but it just... isnt... honestly im not a big fan of democracy... at all... I think if you say one racist thing you should automatically lose your right to stand in an election same with sexism and well some other isms also... we need sensible people to rule countries and sensible people to elect them... but democracy... it doesnt work that way... I dont like it... power to the people is good in theory sure but if the people are the problem... democracy is stupid...

All I can think of is... if there WAS a referendum to nuke some middle eastern countries or not or even go ahead and invade them... would it happen??? Would people vote that way??? And... I dont know... I think the answer would be yes... and that makes me sad :( if no one will speak out against bad things more bad things will happen and thats whats happening here... I just wish someone would say 'no... screw democracy this isnt happening'... like keeping Trump from being elected no matter what people vote... or Britain leaving the EU... some things just SHOULDNT happen...

LaurenXIV said...

Also... 'make X great again' is just another way of saying 'ill screw over anyone who doesnt fit in with my idea of a perfect X'... people should also know the people who say these things are often morons... well I cant think of anyone who has ever said something like that but hasnt been a moron... its just stupid...

Vivanus Keen said...

(@Lauren: I'm sorry but if that were to happen, everything would fall apart.)

Inky Flame said...

(You know its nice in Wales when you go and sit in the car and the seats burn you
This is a rarity)

Inky Flame said...

(Someone explain this
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/18/brexits-plunging-pound-brings-dividend-bonanza/amp/?client=safari#

English please)

Star Inkbright said...

@Lauren: NO NO NO!!

#FREEDOMOFSPEECH

PEOPKE SHOULDN'T BE LOCKED UP FOR SEXIST/RACIST COMMENTS!!!

(in my opinion. I'm pretty liberal.)

Also,NO NO NO to ditching democracy. I believe in that one Winston Churchchill quote where he says that democracy is the worst form of government except or everything else we've tried. Democracy DEFINITELY has its downfalls (naming, people are idiots),but the answer is NOT to enforce your beliefs over everyone else's. Seems like a good idea when it's YOUR beliefs being forced on everyone, but how would you feel if Donald Trump could just enforce a dictatorship and ban gay marriage just because he felt like it?

Mary Contrary said...

Racism, as a hate crime, IS illegal. In the UK at least, it's an arrestable offence.

Freedom of speech is very important, but so is avoiding discrimination and abuse.
Being free to speak what you feel =/= being free to attack people or to entice an audience into doing so, IMO.

Mary Contrary said...

@Chloe: Right?? I had to OPEN A WINDOW in the car yesterday it was so weird oh my god

Inky Flame said...

(And there are so many flying ants!!!
And every worm I've come across are like.. Spasming!)

LaurenXIV said...

They should Star... verbal abuse is still abuse ;) just like cyberbullying is still bullying... it should be an arrestable offence... it isnt ok... freedom of speech doesnt give you freedom to hurt people for no reason because theyre different from you again that ISNT ok... freedom of movement doesnt mean you could kick someone out of their house... freedom to drive doesnt mean you are free to run someone over... theyre all the same... just because you are free to do something doesnt mean youre free to hurt someone with it and use it as a defence again that ISNT ok... and you cant say it might impact on the freedom of good people because people who say these things arent good!!!

And yes not everyone should be able to do it though not someone like Donald Trump under my system he wouldnt be a politician so couldnt make a dictatorship :)

Mary Contrary said...

@Chloe: Huh, we don't really get flying ants over here? But regular ants :P
Poor worms. :( We've been seeing a lot of snails?? And tiny birds. :)

Inky Flame said...

(Loads of flying ants here xD (

Mary Contrary said...

@Lauren: *nods* That's a nice way to explain the difference.

Can't agree that people who say those things aren't good people, though. I've heard a lot of "not to be racist but" over the years from otherwise lovely people. Similarly, I knew a super kind girl in my art class circa 2013-15 who also turned out to be a rather devout Catholic (I think) and believed that homosexual people should go to Hell. And she got a lot of shit for saying that was what she believed, once, but it doesn't erase what a nice person she is, just means she's a nice person with 1 belief I don't like.

Can't agree with abolishing democracy, either.
The thing is, you're deciding how other people live their lives. 1 person cannot be expected to know how an entire country of people think and feel, by magic. If people are having to live under a set of rules, they deserve to have a say in what those rules are, or at least a say in who sets them. If they choose wrong, maybe you didn't present yourself well enough, and possibly there are some flaws with how politics is understood by the people choosing - or maybe they chose that way because of a different issue that they actually wanted addressed. Or maybe what they chose wasn't wrong at all - for them at least.

Mary Contrary said...

What I mean to say is - if a very racist politician has a lot of supporters, it means there are probably a lot of racist people about, supporting them. In that situation, I think the problem is the people's racism, not the politician. ^^

Mary Contrary said...

@Chloe: I think I've only ever seen flying ants like once or twice. Now I feel a bit left out. :P

Inky Flame said...

(Nawwww

I'm so Lonely and bored )

LaurenXIV said...

Well to me anyone who thinks anyone should go to hell isnt a nice person to me... especially when its one group of people just for loving another person :( but I blame the religion more than I blame her but STILL not a nice person to me :)

What im saying is... keep democracy in a way... but have 0 tolerance for bad behavior from politicians... stop them being a politician if theyre racist sexist etc... also have a council of people able to stop any decision made by the public if its in the countrys interest for it not to happen or for it to happen depending on the decision... like someone who works for an environmental charity could veto decisions that would affect the environment... someone from a child abuse charity to veto a decision if it affected childrens rights... people like that... who actually kinda care about the effects of the decisions... people who would know whats best for their particular expertise and be able to say no if it would have a negative impact on it :)

LaurenXIV said...

Also... any multi millionaire or billionaire found guilty of a crime against a person should be made to give 85% of their earnings to charity for the length of time that theyre in prison :) id have that as a law :)

Noelle said...

Intolerance for intolerance is still being intolerant.
You can't claim a moral high ground if you are trying to take away basic rights of others, even if they aren't good people.

Inky Flame said...

(That was well said Noelle)

-HB/Joe- said...

(I agree.)

Inky Flame said...

(Hey Hellboy!)

-HB/Joe- said...

(Mornin'. How're you, Inky?)

Inky Flame said...

(I'm good thanks, you?)

Star Inkbright said...

*nods at Noelle*

I'm aware it's an arrestable offence. We don't have true freedom of speech in the UK, despite what many think.

Personally I believe in banning discriminatory speech in certain contexts, but DEFINITELY NOT in private.
Tbh the contexts in which I believe in banning it are pretty slim. I believe organisations have the right to impose their own rules. Like if you're a waitress abd you say racist things whilst at work, your boss has a right to fire you for it. And I mean if you work for the Labour party and you're racist then the Labour party has a right to fire you. But I don't believe in arresting people for yelling random things in public, unless it's something like "FIRE!"

Thing is that politicians are alwaaayass representing their party. It's that kind of job. So the borderlines are different than they are for waitresses. But I believe the punishment is being fired, not being locked up.

Just my opinion though.

Star Inkbright said...

However, the antisemitism accusations at the moment are RIDICULOUS. Like I'm not pro antisemitism in any way, but some of the things Labour party members are being accused for is just wtf. Next thing you know, saying "I love Jews" will be considered antisemitic.

Inky Flame said...

(WHAT IS THE DISNEY THING THAT POPPED INTO MY HEAD AND ITS LIKE Q RESATURANT OR PARTY OR SOMETBING AMD ALL I CAN REMEMBER IS HADES IN IT AND I THINK TIMONE AND PUMBA ARE IN IT)

-HB/Joe- said...

(That's good! I'm still living. Although I'm gonna go back to ghosting after this comment.

Interesting conversation. Take care, now.)

Inky Flame said...

(HOUSE OF MOUSE
THAT WAS IT)

Inky Flame said...

(Okay Hellboy ^.^)

LaurenXIV said...

Hi Mr Reynolds its nice to meet you :)


... I think this conversation is one im too naive for again haha

To me... taking away someones right to uh... hurt people is a good thing :) no one should have the right to hurt anyone... ummmm i think my way solves the problems with democracy bad politicians and uninformed people??????
Making all the politicians behave sensibly means better things for the country and people being able to veto decisions that affect important matters is saying informed people making informed decisions is better than uninformed people making uninformed decisions which are bad for the country... people still have all their main rights... to me... like... letting a racist teacher teach would be bad for the students because theyd think bad things were ok... so why let a racist be the leader of millions of people??? The president should be someone who people can look up to and say this person is going to be a good role model... someone who stops bad things and makes peoples lives better... NOT a racist moron... what kind of example does that set??? What kind of country does that make us look like??? So making sure informed decisions happen and making sure our politicians are suitable to run the country is basically all id do... again maybe im too naive haha ;)

Star Inkbright said...

Yes, but why should YOU get to decide what's best for the country based on your beliefs? How is that any better than Hitler saying "let's blame the Jews because it's what I think would be best for the country"?

You have to let the majority decide. That's the way to cause the most happiness, as doing anything else would only make a minority of people happy. (In theory.)

LaurenXIV said...

Ummmm i dont get to decide haha ;) im powerless :)

And uhhhhhh its better because no one would die, politicians would behave better, the country would make better choices???

Well yes if there was a 70/30 majority but in a 49/51 or a 50/50???

Mary Contrary said...

Doesn't it depend whether the racist teacher /teaches racism/ or not, though? If they don't act on it, does it make a difference what they believe personally? And if people are uninformed, inform them - but you'd have to inform them equally on both sides of an argument, because otherwise you're just telling people what to do?
What's best for the country is very subjective. You could say fighting in WWII was not best for the country 'cause people didn't have to die and we should have just surrendered/not fought. You could say fighting in WWII was best for the country because although lives were lost, your country didn't get invaded and stuff. You could say leaving the EU was not best for the country because of the economical consequences and potential harm to our international relationships. You could also say that leaving the EU was best for the country because it could help to solve housing and employment crises and help workers and businesses local to the UK to thrive, and that it may make it easier to keep the NHS running.
Best interest for a whole country is tough, because different people in different situations are going to be affected differently by the decision.
Maybe 52% of the UK really do think that leaving the EU was in our best interest, and it's kind of unreasonable for the government to ignore their voices because whoever's in charge doesn't personally agree, y'know?

LaurenXIV said...

Lots of people act on their beliefs Taia :) thats why people prey when their scripture tells them... its also the reason behind hate crime and uh basically everything... people dont usually act against what they believe in in any case haha ;)

Well youd have to balance it out with more bad things and less bad things and see which decision is better :)

Mary Contrary said...

*waves to Ghost-Hellboy*
Nice to see you're still around & well! :)

Star Inkbright said...

I believe in referendums, you should out something in place so say it's only listened to if there's at least a 60% majority. That could very easily have been implemented before the Brexit referendum, but no one did it. -_-

Democracy does have its flaws, but I can't see a better alternate.

What if 90% of the country are racist? Shouldn't racism then be legal?

*nods at Taia*

LaurenXIV said...

Im just gonna shut up haha I just dont want bad things to happen and bad people to be allowed to rule countries and I dont know I just want the world to be a good place... democracy used to make me happy but it just doesnt anymore it makes me frustrated at people :(

Star Inkbright said...

^put something in place to say

Star Inkbright said...

You don't have to shut up if you don't want to. :)

I agree with all of that . . . I don't want bad things to happen, I don't want bad people to rule countries, I just want the world to be a good place, democracy used to make me happy but now it just makes me frustrated at people. I just don't believe there's any way to fix all of it . . .

LaurenXIV said...

Haha I want to... that thing about hitler kinda affected me it wasnt your fault its just me being a stupid sensitive moron really ;)

... people vote with their feelings... I think at the moment there are too many people voting with their hate and not with their head :(

Mary Contrary said...

But the amount of badness in each thing is also subjective - badness isn't a physical property, it's an emotional/social/political one, and hence I'd say it isn't measurable insofar as to say X is wholly less bad than Y. And it doesn't change that the people who were gonna be affected negatively by the outcome still would be affected negatively by the outcome, however you weighed it up.

I guess this is why being President is never an easy job :P

@Star: In my personal opinion, racism is wrong because discrimination is wrong, so I'd still want rascism to be illegal - that's how I feel if I focus on the racism. In my other opinion, you've got to listen to the voice of the people - that's if I focus on the 90% . In my other other opinion, lots of people would also like to have the ability to kill people without it having any consequences; if 90% want to be able to murder/torture/abuse other people, does that mean those things should be legal? We might not last very long if they were.
so, idk, that's a tough one. I don't think there's any totally right answer and I think that pretty much sums up my political stance, too.

LaurenXIV said...

Taia... 100,000 civilians getting brutally murdered is worse than them not doing... I can say that haha ;)

Star Inkbright said...

*laughs slightly sadly, if that makes any sense at all* I've upset people by comparing them to Nazis before . . . it's probably my issue, not yours. Sorry . . .


I don't blame people for voting with their feelings though. The stats they gave us pre-referendum were so shit, it was almost hard to vote using logic. Your feelings were all you had left.
I think the Remain campaign could have done a much better job.

@Taia: If the peopkebreally wanted murder to be legal (if it was a big enough of an issue that there were like people protesting, and then we had a referendum, and there was like an 80% majority for yes), I'd say it should be legal.
My issue is that I struggle to believe in the objective rightness of any position. Hence being overly liberal.

Mary Contrary said...

Ditto, Star. *nodsnods*

@Lauren: "there are too many people voting with their hate and not with their head :(" *nodsnodsnods* :)
Also, you're awesome and Not Hitler and, thanks for sharing your thoughts?? :)

Star Inkbright said...

*agrees that Lauren is awesome and not Hitler*

*gets a bit carried away with debating sometimes :/*

(In other news, if anyone's watched Little Miss Sunshine, they may be amused to hear that I watched it on Saturday night abd have had Super Freak (the song Olive danced to) stuck in my head since. XD)

LaurenXIV said...

Really no worries Star :) im just stupidly sensitive... I just... well... im the furthest thing from a nazi you can imagine haha ;)

Feelings dont make informed decisions though :( and feelings dont make sensible decisions... its like being drunk on emotions :)

Murder should be illegal no matter what people think in my opinion :) I just... think there are some things which should be considered right now matter what the majority of people think... you know???

Mary Contrary said...

@Lauren: *nods* Good point, yeah. But the alternative could lead to 100'001 people being killed, how can you know..?

@Star: *nods* I think both campaigns weren't handled very well tbh; it probably wasn't helped by the fact that nobody really believed we would vote to leave? (I also think politics education in this country could be a lot better, and I feel that has an influence on how we vote also, but that's probably a rant for another day.)

*nods some more*

Star Inkbright said...

Yeah, no, I crossed the line a bit. I should pay more attention to where the line is, really.

True. But I mean, the only reason murder and hate speech is illegal is because feelings. Empathy is all feelings, abd empathy is important. If you vote without feelings, you become a facist. But if you vote without logic you become a complete idiot, so idk, being without logic might be worse.

I guess I agree really. I feel like that about democracy. Um, I mean, I think IR should be legal. Not I think it should be illegal.

Star Inkbright said...

I think the reason younger people were majority remain is coz they were better educated. It's the adults that are the problem*; education improvements would be targeted at schools.

*many adults are not that well educated and didn't make an informed decision. Of course, many adults educated themselves very well and made an informed decision. Adults are not a problem, there is just a problem with some adults.

Mary Contrary said...

Gosh damn

As soon as anyone compares logic and emotion I get all Star Trek-y and I can only tell y'all that you need Jim, Bones AND Spock to make the best decision you can so I might just have to avoid that bit of discussion altogether XD

Inky Flame said...

(Emotions are shit in all fairness )

Mary Contrary said...

Oh, OK.

See, in my 7 years of secondary school, I never once received any education on British politics.
We had two mock polls in school over those 7 years, when the General elections rolled around, which in year 7/8 (idk) consisted of being told one morning "we all need to go and pretend to vote. We just go and put a cross in the box you want. You don't have to tell anyone what you picked." and when kids asked 'but we dunno what this means' were told "it doesn't matter just put one down" and most kids went with what their friends did and---- which by the way is hardly a good example to be setting for voters, that's really not what you wanna be teaching?? We were encouraged to vote (weren't allowed not to) but not to vote responsibly. And so if there's any disregard for researching what you vote before hand (and especially for first time voters) at least from my own experience alone, I feel that education would really, really contribute to that.

(( ^^ copy/pasted from a rant/essay from last night, was too lazy to type it up again :P))

So like, I don't feel at all that education helped me to make my decision in the referendum. But it sounds as though your experience is kinda different, so maybe that's just where I am??

LaurenXIV said...

Thank you Star and Taia :) you guys are great too :)

Haha really dont worry Star... as i said im stupidly sensitive and take offence at things I shouldnt and cry way too often so really it isnt your fault so dont think it is :)

Yes but of all the emotions to vote with hate and anger shouldnt be the ones you use :(

Mary Contrary said...

@Chloe: Try telling Star Trek that, though :P

@Lauren: *nods* :)

LaurenXIV said...

I think everyone should be educated up to a point in politics and sex and religion and history :) its important people understand society... its past, its present and its future... they need to know what people make up society and their beliefs... they need to know how to vote responsibly and how to be a responsible parent... they need information :)
I might have not been good at maths or science or anything with numbers or what was so technical... but I liked like the societal studies and English :)

Star Inkbright said...

My school has just started doing mock referendums etc., but before the EU referendum, they educated them on both sides first and my siblings came honebrelling us all kinds of facts and stats.

But yeah, I think we should have compulsory neutral political education.

Star Inkbright said...

^home telling

Agreed Lauren.

Well, don't blame yourself, Lauren.

Star Inkbright said...

I cba to do work today.
*sighs*
My motivation levels are at about 2%.
Not exaggerating.

Mary Contrary said...

I agree, Lauren. I have heard the opinion that education should be for education's sake rather than for the sake of helping you get a job at the end of it (eg. Studying art styles and artists vs learning the applications of art in the professional world) - but it's not an opinion I share, in modern life. I think we should learn all those things, too.
*is a massive nerd*
*liked all the subjects except PE* :P

@Star: *nods* Yeah, see, we didn't get that. ^^
(We did hold a Question Time thing one lunchtime last year with party reps for our constituency, though, which was pretty cool except that only politics students were really supposed to go. *went anyway bc, again, I'm a nerd and also bc sixth form got away with it*)
*agrees!!*

Mary Contrary said...

@Star: :(
Wait, you must be close to summer holidays by now, surely??

LaurenXIV said...

Awww star thats too bad :(

My motivation is uhhh... ok I guess??? But I dont need to do anything haha ;)

I think politics and sex education and religion would basically be 'whatever and whoever you are and whatever you like and whatever youre into its ok because youre you... but just remember there are other people in the world and theyre important also and your actions can hurt people, so dont hurt anyone... unless they want to be hurt' (would only apply to sex i guess haha)... but yes they need to be taught about other peoples opinions and beliefs for sure :)

LaurenXIV said...

I didnt mind sports... I was never any good at most of them though haha ;)

Yes Taia jobs should teach people how to do the job! :)

Inky Flame said...

(*listens and sings along to top 50 all time karaoke classics*)


Look into my eyes – you will see
What you mean to me.
Search your heart, search your soul
And when you find me there you'll search no more.

Don't tell me it's not worth tryin' for.
You can't tell me it's not worth dyin' for.
You know it's true:
Everything I do, I do it for you.

Look into your heart – you will find
There's nothin' there to hide.
Take me as I am, take my life.
I would give it all, I would sacrifice.

Don't tell me it's not worth fightin' for
I can't help it, there's nothin' I want more
You know it's true:
Everything I do, I do it for you, oh, yeah.

There's no love like your love
And no other could give more love.
There's nowhere unless you're there
All the time, all the way, yeah.

Look into your heart, baby...

Oh, you can't tell me it's not worth tryin' for.
I can't help it, there's nothin' I want more.

Yeah, I would fight for you, I'd lie for you,
Walk the wire for you, yeah, I'd die for you.

You know it's true:
Everything I do, oh, I do it for you.

Everything I do, darling.
You will see it's true.
You will see it's true.
Yeah!
Search your heart and your soul
You can't tell it's not worth dying for
I'll be there
I'd walk the fire for you
I'd die for you
Oh, yeah.
I'm going all the time, all the way.

LaurenXIV said...

I also think mental health education is good also like people should learn about psychopaths and sociopaths and depression and anxiety and like allll other disorders and about sadism and masochism (extreme forms of which are APPARENTLY disorders too)... people need to know whatever theyre feeling/not feeling is ok but if theyre not happy with it where to go to get advice :)

Inky Flame said...

(I like psychology and the field of mental illness, but I find there's a lot of politics involved ;-; like there's the Dsm, the diagnostic system in America.. It's really useful for diagnosing real disorders such as depression and schizophrenia.. Which is great

But every time a new version comes out, there are new illnesses in it and suddenly there's a trwatment for it
Like apparently grieving and shyness are now apparently mental illnesses )

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