Due to unforeseen circumstances, the announcement of the title of my new series will take place on WEDNESDAY instead of tomorrow.
I could go into the whys and the hows and explain it all to you, making perfect sense and being entirely reasonable...
Or I could just grin and enjoy the fact that you are now cursing my name.
I think I'll do the latter.
Monday, March 2, 2015
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So you're just arguing over nothing, basically?
Hello.
Np, tell me how she responds.
Yeah. I'm juet crossing my fingers that she didn't fall asleep. If she has, I'll email you in the morning.
@Kas: Yeah. :) Isn't it fun?
(Although I would argue that it wasn't nothing.)
Those are the best kind, Kas. How's stuff?
@trip: you can call me fera...and why are you pointing your sword at me? *smirks* you should be doing that to the ones we're gonna face once this bar returns to the human universe *smirks* I do not know what he wants, or what his name is in particular *smirks*
(One I very well may agree with. Depends on where you draw lines. And normally that's a committee process, so tour argument may sway it.)
Well the blog is certainly lively tonight.
*smiles*
Hear Hear.
Hear hear to the last page too.
I'm going to try and sleep, I doubt I will though since I tried to sleep all day.
Hello/goodbye everyone.
And goodnight *hugs*
I point my sword at people who could give me one sentence answers, but in stead teleport me and my bar to an immaterial dimension. It's a sign that they're beginning to annoy me.
Sleep well!
@trip: I am very sorry to have annoyed you, was not my intention, i just thought maybe i could save your bar from being smashed into the ground *smirks* I did give you the sentence after that though *grins*
@gem(have nice dreams :) )
*Suddenly snaps awake again*
*He sits up and stretches his arms above his head*
Man... good thing the sun's out and they left me outside. Would've taken forever to recoup if they stuck me in a bed somewhere...
*He stands and looks around*
No more phasing for me today though... Must be a town around here somewhere.
*With a short nod, he takes off down the volcano*
@trip: from the sword, i can tell you are an adept...correct me if i am wrong ^_^ *smirks*
Yes, congratulations, after repeated prompting you gave me the smallest amount of information.
So give me more, and maybe my agitation indicator will go down.
Tell me everything you know about the situation, from when it began to now.
In brief, of course.
@Tripbright you two are so confusing...
Good night, Gem.
Oh, well there are some interesting new ideas emerging about that. At the minute, for the uninitiated I'd just say yes.
But watch this space.
@Trip: Lol. :P
Yeah. Most things depend on where you draw lines.
I bet she's gone to sleep.
How infuriating.
Thank you, Kas.
Darn. Oh well, I anticipate your email greatly.
@Kas: Thank you. :)
@trip: Vile's great son is supposed to be an adept as well...that's as far as my knowledge goes about his powers. *smirks*
:) Thank you.
These points don't even make sense.
Men are stronger because they're suicidal? "Stronger" is subjective.
Women are more important? Subjective much?
And of how he came to be?
Because from what I know of Vile, he was basically murderous being of hate and little else.
(Vile spoilers anyone?)
@trip: necromancers of vile's caliber don't need sexual reproduction... he impregnated a woman he found to be strong during the war...after that, i don't really know what happened *smirks*
(Not really? That he was a murderer isn't really a spoiler.)
(i am just making stuff up, and vile has been mentioned in the first book)
I somehow doubt he would really want to?
(I mean, should we fire the spoiler cannons at Fera?)
@trip: Vile was a strong necromancer...but he wasn't a fool...he knew if he was defeated, he wanted to have someone to inherit his power *grins*
(it's not spoilers dude) ...
(Yeah, the power is in his armour.)
(i know...so what?)
*Trip lowers the sword, chuckling as he walks to the window to look outside*
And you know this because...?
So he can't pass on his power because his power is in the armour...
@trip: because i ate fortune cookies *grins*
@Kas: No.
Her point was that men are hardwired to be the strong provider, so when they are unable to do this - to fulfill their biological need - they become depressed and suicidal.
(dude...not in a literal sense)
(Mhh, the only way to have someone "inherit" his power would be for him to have the armor go to that person in his will.)
(no...genetics, hello? )
(Fera that's what we've been saying, all Vile's power came from his armor, not himself. So there's no power to be passed down through genetics in the first place.)
*he laughs harder* Fortune cookies!
Did you... *he chuckles* Did you not even consider he may be lying?
((Hmm. Hmm.
Hmm.
Let's not fire the spoiler cannons, but I am amused. :)))
(but he had a strong connection to magic...)
((No. Um - Vile DID have a natural inclination for Necrimancy. Like Valkyrie did. His armour was just his object to store shadows in. ))
@trip: who might be lying? *smirks*
This supposed great grandson of a man who never removed his armour or showed any inclination towards interest in anything but killing. *he rests his head against the wall*
(True as that may be, his power has been shown to be stored in the armor. Since whenever anyone has assembled and worn it they gained incredibly powerful necromancy.)
@trip: *sigh* ok...i saw it...i saw his connection to bile...in fact...i can show it to you right now *smirks*
*he straightens up*
Good. Do so immediately.
@trip: how much are you used to seeing visions? *smirks*
Very.
Seriously, just lay it on me. This is my life.
@Lumen: Yes, his power is in his armour, but Necrimancers store their natural power in theue armour. His armour is powerful because he was powerful.
I sort of need to get to sleep soon too . . . meh.
Meh indeed, Star.
@Star I think being screwy in the head defines us as a species.
"How common are mental health problems?
1 in 4 people in the UK will experience a mental health problem each year."
Source:
http://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/types-of-mental-health-problems/statistics-and-facts-about-mental-health/how-common-are-mental-health-problems/
(Yes I know how necromancers work, my main character was one. And since you have agreed that his power has been stored in his armor we can safely say that at the time of his "death" that is where it lay, as cannot use necromancy.)
@trip: *eyes start glowing* here it comes *you see lord vile, in his armour, then there's a woman who can resist his shadow-then he decides to have a child with this woman(rape)-now you see vision that i had when i sucked the memory out of the spy-a vision in a vision-you see the spy seeing a figure, but this figure never shows his face-the spy is calling him-Mr presence* see? *smirks*
@Star I still don't get your point.
Fuuuuck
@Kas: Yeah. :)
@Kas: What do you not gwt about it? :)
*he smiles*
We've nothing to worry about.
Not yeah. You're making my head hurt. What are you trying to say?
@trip: what does that supposed to mean? *grins*
Why are you arguing over this?
There is nothing to argue about!
*pats fera on the shoulder*
Take me home, kid. The future's gonna be just fine.
@trip: so, we're gonna take them on without mr ed? *smirks*
*he grins*
This bar is Zaf proof, I'm going to bed, son.
*Tanya approaches Trip from behind, wraps her hands around him, leans in towards his ear and says "I smell a spai." before making her way around him, a wide smile on her lips as she points at Fera with her thumb*
@Kas: . . . ? What do you want explaining?
I don't know if you were here when I spoke about throwing bones, but don't throw any.
Why it's worth arguing about?
@trip: very well, but don't complain if your bar is going to be ground zero-ed *smirks* *holds out one hand, the dimension start wrapping up until it is just a cube of darkness in hand*
If fairly sure my bar is immovable in space, so I should be fine.
@trip: I feel them coming *puts on a grin* yare yare...it's going to be interesting for me to leave this place *smirks*
I would offer Aria's bed, but I don't know how he'd feel about that. So yeah, have fun.
@Kas: I like arguing.
I don't much care whether what I'm arguing over is worth arguing about.
It's like, some people don't understand novels because they think they're pointless. What is the point in spending all that time writing or reading about a world that doesn't exist? But people enjoy wriring, and people enjoy reading, so novels happen. I enjoy arguments, so arguments happen.
I can't disagree with Star.
@Trip: :)
(Also, I /disagree/ with her.
Which makes me want to prove her wring. In my mind, she's already wrong, and the fact she can't see it is frustrating.)
But you're arguing over a useless topic. One that has no point.
WHY?
@trip: I am just kidding...i have my ways *grins* *touches eye-summons giant, glowing eyeball behind back* so long, trip...I am an anti-hero type of detective, if you want help, here's my contact *contact appears on one of your vine glasses* *steps into the eyeball as if emerging with it, and eyeball disappears*
YOU'RE ALREADY WRONG!!!
HUMANITY WOULD BE BETTER OFF IF THE MOON WAS BLUE
PROVE ME WRONG
(Shouldn't you be sure to check you're not wrong? Otherwise, do you have the right to be frustrating?)
It is not my obligation to prove you wrong, it is yours to prove yourself right.
Just explain why your argument is in any way relevant to anything, ever?
And I'm not n antihero?
Hurrumph. *he slowly pulls himself upstairs, mumbling about children and the future*
@Kas: C's grandma doesn't like reading books because she soends all that time on it and then at the end she has nothing to show for it. She sees it as pointless.
The reason I like reading books is not cimpletwly because of the outcome (I would argue one gaind greatly from reading, but), but becaude of the journey. Becaise reading is fun.
Arguing is the same.
Also, the great thing about this is that you learn. If I peove her wrong, not only will I feel happy but I will have educated her. If she proves me wrong, I will be educated; I will know that little bit more about the world and will be able to update my perspective according.
@trip: *telepathically speaking* how is your bar handling those black crystals? *giggles*
@Trip I DO WUT I WANT
It's about who people should mate with.
We're literally discussing the future of all future humans.
@Kas: I would argue that everything is relevant to something. We base our world persoectives off some key knowkedge, and if you alter that jey knowledge, then . . . well.
Also, once again; books aren't relevant.
Just fine, now leave me alone. I always struggle to sleep when people won't stop psychically bothering me.
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Maybe so, Kas, but you will win no arguments if you do.
@trip: ok....i wonder when they're gonna give up *smirks*
@Trip: Yeah. I mean, I'm trying to prove to my friendship group that toffee and fudge are simular, bur I would say this argument is actually pretty important. If everyone goes around thjnking they can't go out with weak males, not inly does that create a toxic society in which males are pushed to alwaya be strong (oh wait . . . we have that already, but . . . what about all the weak men? Who are they ginna go out with?
I would also argue that weakness and strength are vwry subjective, but meh.
*not that everyone has to go out with someone. But most people want to
@Trip I used the word humanity first. Blue moon, yo! It'll be better blue, duh!
It's a shitty argument. If you wanted someone strong to mate with, someone like Hitler would have been a great bet.
And look how that turned out for Eva.
So what is strong? It's subjective. Just like everything. So what do you/C mean by strong?
This whole argument is pointless, why won't you explain it!?
So they do, the weirdos :P
@Star so men get depressed if they can't provide for their wives and children?
(off to shower, see you in 20 minutes)
Bye, Fera.
@Kas: I'm not sure what she means. She's currently asleep. However, I think she refers to both mental and physical strength when she mentions it. She also mentioned providors, whuch gives you the idea that with strength she's referring to relability and capability.
@Trip: Ikr! XD
@Kas: C says so, yeah.
I disagree.
Hitler basically destroyed anyone he got into a relationship
Why will the moon be better blue? Blue is not in as of itself positive, it is simply a quality. Why would it be better than white? At least white is easy to see by.
Strong is a very general term, but in personality terms it is understood to mean that you are assertive and powerful within social situations, generally earning and doing more than those who are weak.
Now, you can debate what the meaning should be, but this is in its most basic form how people will recognise it. Is it also indicative of resilience, a strong sense of direction, clarity and self confidence? Maybe. But do these qualities actually matter when the argument is looked at as a whole?
Not really. The argument is still fundamentally about the woman needing to possess a positive virtue to a lesser degree than her partner for a successful relationship.
Then the best thing to do is to murder all women and have all men be in gay relationship.
Yay I cured depression!
No?
I think you're willfully misunderstanding. This doesn't strengthen our case, it makes it more obnoxious.
@Trip: Thank you. :)
@Kas: . . . Yeaj. I disagree with your silution, mostly because it involves three and a half billion people being murdered. :P
Also partially because it involves forcing people into a model of relationship they may be incompatible with, and that's what I'm arguing against. C:
And creates an inability to ever reproduce again and will not eliminate all causes of depression, only one. Not to mention probably create more by putting a timer on the human race.
@Trip: Oh yeah. :P
OOOOOOH I get it!
"if a woman goes out with a man who's weaker than her, it's WRONG"
So what you're basically saying is that in every relationship, the male must be more dominant, and the woman must be more submissive.
Tell C she might find her perfect relationship in 50 Shades.
I love how we logically countered that argument. XD
I swear if I got it wrong then I have no idea what the actual hell you're arguing about.
Not really. It isn't necessarily sexual, but more about decision making and earning power.
And ikr Star, we're the best.
@Kas: Yeah, pretty much, yup.
However, that would be falling back on insults, which is something U am loathe to do, as it detracts from my ability to seem logival and rational.
(Althoygh I've already lost that because I went kaputt over all the gender stereotypes in her links.)
Also, idk. Is the guy in Fifty Shades taller than five foot ten? XD
@Trip: Nah, in Fifty Shades the man is pretty much dominant in all areas of their relationship.
I didn't say it was sexual.
Dominant can be decision making. Dominant can be splitting finances between them, with the male having more money to allocate than the woman because the woman gave up her right to equally manage money when she believed she should only be in a relationship with a dominant male.
See, I knew there was something making me angry about this argument.
Uh, I think in C's argument, the man more has to provide money for the woman.
Ah, but C mentioned nature. Nature doesn't need the woman. The woman may die in childbirth, and man will care for the child.
Yeah, but if she doesn't then she can make more. Generally with mammals, you want the mother to make at least two children. Nature needs them both.
@Trip: Yus.
I'm pretty sure she thinks that females have other great qualities to offer.
Should be a space there.
Well, ain't that flattering.
Let me rewrite
she doesn't think females are pointless and can just be killed off.
I don't think that gained anything with rephrasing.
I think I'm tired.
Look, one way or the other, C's argument is that man should always directly have more power than a woman in a given relationship. Whether it's money, influence, physical strength etc.
What this argument is missing is the why?
Why should this be the case? She's given no good reason for this, just how I've given no good reason for my soothing blue moon idea.
As such, it's not a valid argument.
I think tiredeness is for the weak and not weak who aren't me.
Yeah, but that's nature. Once the new generation is born, the old will become obsolete.
She said that men suffered negative effects when not the more powerful partner, such as depression, and that the natural order of things is to have a dominant male partner.
@Kas: Her argument is that men are biologically hardwired to be the strong one, be the provider, and that it is natural, and that if you go against this relationship model you are defying nature. And she provided a few lovely links.
@Trip: I am weak. *shrugs* XD
So what?
@Kas: SO, that's the why.
So what if you're defying nature? Humans don't fly, so using planes is defying nature. What's the big deal?
So what is not a counter argument. We already explained C's argument and its reasoning. What do you counter argue?
@Kas: That's what Trip said.
Unfortunately, she fell asleep. *shrugs*
The depression, and the upset of other areas of the mind, apparently.
@Trip: It is a counter argumemt, imo. It devlaued the 'why'.
It is in men's nature to get depressed, then. Let them get mental help. I don't care.
Well
I earlier said to her
"And can you prove thqt men arem't just suicidally depressed when not providing for a family because the whole of society around them is screaming at them that they must provide for a family - similarly to the way that society screams at teenage girls that they must be thin, resulting in lots of lovely suicidal depression?"
@Kas: Eh. I think preventing depression is always good.
I just don't understand why she places that much emphasis on ensuring someone won't be depressed for one little reason. When they'll still have dozens of other reasons to be depressed, and hundreds of reasons to make the relationship a shitty one.
Also
"Sssssssss of course men feel loss from retirement. If someone is the providor of a family for however many years, they are probably going to feel loss when that ends, and as men are usually providors, of course they feel more loss."
@Kas: No
the depression thing is mostly her proof that this model of rekationship is natural and therefore what we should be following.
Then don't get involved in the argument.
But you should care. Because what there is to learn should be learned, what there is to discover should be discovered and everything debatable should be debated. This way humans become smarter, better refined and more powerful. Existence is improved for the race by caring as much as possible.
@Trip: Eh, I would ccategorisevarguing for the sake of it as an opposite to caring. But rhat's usually because when I argue here I usually end yp hurting people. It's like desire not to hurt people vs. desire to argue.
Why am I still awake?
I'm going to die tomorrow.
Natural doesn't always mean good.
Remember how I said that when we make offspring, the old generation can just die off.
Well, what if we make sentient robots?
It would only be natural if they killed off humanity.
Think about it - children are born, parents die. It's nature.
So in the next 50-100 years, it's natural for the human race to become extinct.
Just because it's natural doesn't mean it's a good idea.
You're still awake because you love us.
@Kas: I know. :)
@Trip: Oh yeah. :P
That's what I said, that humans definitely make a net gain by not agreeing with nature.
Well, so C thinks that in every relationship the woman should be weaker than the male because being weak is her natural state of being, and she shouldn't defy nature and try to be strong like the male as it would make the male unhappy.
Gotcha!
Robots, pls.
@Kas: Oh, the woman can be strong, so long as the male is stronger. Just, if you're a strong female or a weak male you have a smaller dating pool. But basically, yeah. :)
GabeN has top post on front page of reddit.
Robots pls.
Just read my comment 5-10 times and see if it's a good idea.
I just... it didn't compute that someone would accept this as relationship criteria.
hey everyone :)
Hi, Fera.
what's all this fuss about? ^_^
Arguments...
Good night.
@kas: goodnight :)
@ppl: In 50 Shades of Grey, the guy, Christian Grey, was an abusive crusty lampshade (the one insult I can come up with which doesn't involve copious amounts of swearing). (random psa)
bbut...we all knew that :D i think... :D
(*****SORTA DEATH BRINGER SPOILERS*****
Viles son? *bursts out laughing hysterically* Never mind arguing if his power could be genetically passed on, VILE CAN'T HAVE KIDS! XDDD I mea, seriously, he can't. Hell he can't even frick frack unless he got a full body facadé!)
Onwa: Mmm... perfect.
*grins, plucking one of the feathers, twirling it between her fingers*
*holds her close, murmuring against her hair*
Its fine love, it's brilliant
Hack: Oh.. I'm sorry..
Manuel: Hmm. I'm afraid you mightn't be able to reach all of me.
Sil-
*DEATH BRINGER SPOILER*
Simple. Vile just you know has a facade that allows him to frick frack...*smirks*
Following the meeting with Fitz and other agents, Zafira went back to the Sanctuary. The SHIELD agents were keen to help take this threat on. Zafira was very grateful. Yet something troubled her, she always wondered what was happening on Asgard, with Loki and the others. What were they planning? She walked to her office and began writing her encounter with Coulson and the others. She had to do this. This war was coming, and the people of this world depending on the mages to protect them.
Ravel walked into her office, staying quiet, knowing the look his wife had on her face. When she finished writing, he spoke.
"Zaf. What is going on?" Zafira looked up at him, and shook her head.
"Who else? Loki. He's like the Phantom or some ghost! We look one way and he's in another country or realm!" Zafira sounded worn out. Ravel walked closer to her, taking her hand. She relaxed at his touch.
"You sound like me, when I was in Ireland. Loki is messing with you, remember that. The bastard knows you are hard to trick." Ravel told her, and as he spoke, the very Asgardian they spoke of appeared.
Standing in the same battle armor they had seen him in when he was in Blogland, Loki stood in Zafira's office. Shadows formed in Zafira's hand, but Loki was quicker and had Zafira tigjtly.
"Now. I need you. You always wanted to see Asgard, well I'll give you a tour." He whispered, Zafira struggling to get out of his grip. Ravel drew a knife. His voice was deadly calm.
"Let go."
"Please don't." Loki said, eyeing the knife. He vanishes before Ravel could throw the knife.
*tries to hold back murderous and sadistic urges*
*raises an eyebrow at Dugglyn*
Well then.
*darts forward and grabs Audra by the neck, slamming her against a wall*
Hello, Audra.
*she cries out, surprised at Dugglyn's sudden moment*
*Audra struggles against her grip, trying to pry Dugglyn's hands away*
*when she speaks her voice is strained*
Hello, Dugglyn.
*smirks, tightening her grip, cutting off Audra's air*
(O_O wow Duggy!
****DEATH BRINGER SPOILERS****
@Zaf yeaaaaaaaah but even if he DID have a facadé he still wouldn't have the swimmers!!!)
(Apologies, I had to get ready for bed.
Hello Jai. 'Wow Duggy'? Is that all you're going to say? Not 'Stop choking Audra'?)
*she struggles, her face beginning o turn blue*
**to
Sorry.
*digs her nails into her throat, grinning*
8/5-0...
I 13-4/10/0-14-1 20-2-9/7.
20-12-7/19-1 18-17/19-11-3/13 21-7-15/9/3/2/1-7-13/19-15.
9/4 14/1/5 8/13-8-12/13 5/9/1/6-14/1 2 3-2/17-13 20-12/7/6-14/1 20-18/6
I 11/3/1/8 I 20-1 10/11-2/1 5/8/2/5-11/6-1/5.
*Audra whimpers when the nails dig into her throat, letting out any extra air*
*her struggles are getting weaker and soon her eyes roll into the back of her head and she goes completely limp*
I 3-2/13/6 13-12/10-6 I 20 19/1-5/1...
I Salutes Silente and Dugglyn and Audra |
| Exits stage left |
(*hugs 13/2/4/0 3/15/7-9/4-11-6*
Are you okay?)
*holds her a bit longer before letting her drop*
*turns and walks away*
~The end~
(The end? That's all? Okaaaay. May I ask what that was about?)
(Soy, I was feeling a little violent!
*salutes 13!*)
I dedicate this page to pecans!
Ah. Well better through role play than in real life.
I have to go now, goodbye.
Bye Audra! I'm gonna go too!
My birthday's coming in 2 weeks and one day...
My last year as a teenager(turning 19 this year)! D:
I DON'T WANNA BE TWENTY THAT SOUNDS SCARY!
Yay fpr only have five anx a half hours of sleep.
. . .
I might go back to sleep, actually.
(*pokes star* Go back to sleep.
@Tamami wow that'd old..
*laughs*
Then again, sixteen seems old to me and I'm going sixteen this year. Still though, twenty...)
@Jai: But it's daylight. :(
Yeah . . . twenty seems both young and old to me. As does sixteen.
I think I've mostly accepted that I'm sixteen now, thpugh. I feel that old. :S
(@Star but sleep. If you don't sleep your brain won't work.
*nods in agreement*
I haven't accepted that I'm going sixteen yet)
@Jai: So? What do I need it for?
I would go to sleep, but it's daytime so my chances of getting to sleep are vwry slim - also, we have extended family here; so I kind of need to get up a bit.
It took me ages to accept I qas sixteen. XD
. . . Wait.
I haven"t fully accepted it yet.
Damn. :P
(*cries* I'm going to be seventeen
*goes back to sleep*)
. . . *watches Inky going back to sleep*
Huh.
Why can I not do that?
Hello everyone! How are we all this fine day?
Jesus Christ its been ages. You've redecorated...again. I must say, it's veryyyyyyy...original
Hi Rhydian! :)
I'm good, thank you. :) You?
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