In producing a song yeah, a lot of people will use some pitch alteration, but they really don't need to because they can sing without it, and "pitch altering" is something you cannot do live. Like I said, they sing live. You can watch it if you want, their singing is far better than your Average Joe. I still agree that there are better musicians and there is a lot of music I find more interesting but 1D have talent, a lot more than most people. They have actual ability to sing, better than most of my favorite bands if we're being honest. Of course I still love those bands for sounding exactly how they sound, but as far as being in key and having a nice timbre and perfect harmonies, 1D are about as good as it gets. I don't like the fact that their genre is pop, but they certainly have talent.
Also, you missed out the rest of my point. If there's one thing I hate more than innacuracy it's having my words when said entirely neutrally doctored to suit an argument.
But please, still answer my question rather than respond to the second point.
@Mara: *hugs* For the record, me, and most of the people online, don't think that 1D only do it for the money and I don't think they're horrible people. *hugs* You saw what happened when we discussed Justin Bieber and you saw what happened when we discussed 1D. That's a difference. :) *hugs* I lov eyou. :)
Also, Mara, you're awesome and I think you should have every right to protect the group that you love, but that was NOT hate. And just flinging that word around cheapens it.
Dragona is expressing a strong opinion, not calling One Direction douchebags and telling them to kill themselves.
@Mara: And, that is hate, but Dragona doesn't get why people mind hate, which is totally, like - it's like I don't get why people like football. (Well, I do get it, actually, but that's because I'm me - I don't understand why people would spent so much time watching football matches. :P)
@Trip: You see, if someone said they were douchebags and told them to kill themselves, they would look like idiots and would clearly not be listened to, so it wouldn't hurt. Hate is painless. Reasonable arguments hurt. Like I said earlier. *points to comment where I ANALSYED PEOPLE WTF WHERE DID I LERN TO DO THAT*
Also Matex, you are once again greatly underestimating the talent of a good technician. You CAN auto tune in a concert just as effectively as in a studio, it'll just cost you more because it's much more work.
@Trip, by acoustic I meant live acoustic sets, generally speaking. I think it is fair to include their acoustic recordings though because to my knowledge those don't use any such effect. Or if they do it is only subtle like you said, not noticeable, and majority of what you hear is them actually singing.
But honestly, it isn't possible to just label something as "that uses auto pitch so they have no talent". Auto tune doesn't make someone a good singer, it just changes the pitch of their voice. Bad singing still sounds bad.
@Matex: I agree - if it's good singing, then even if the pitch isn't perfect, it'll sound good. And if it's bad singing, then even if it's all in tune it'll just sound . . . bad.
I think it's MEANT to hyperlink . . . It used to turn my words blue . . . I remember that . . . I was like "OOH IT CHANGES COLOUR!" Then it stopped doing that and I was like "Oh. It's broken." Then I didn't think about it for like a year and a half . . . :O
Auto tune is pitch correction, it doesn't predict when people are going to make mistakes. If someone sings out of key (which people do, regularly) auto tune won't fix that and no technician can either. They have to be able to sing well in the first place for any kind of pitch correction to actually work, I think that is the point I'm making.
Exactly. If I just branded all arguments that annoyed me as hate, I would never win a debate. That is why what Dragona is saying is not hate. He has well reasoned- if slightly misinformed -arguments that actually hurt rather than make you sigh with annoyance. And if we just start flinging the word hate around and attacking any kind thing that critisizes 1D by calling it hate, not only by weakening the word but also by making actual victims' experiences seem less important.
People tend to assume the only thing singing involves is pitch, and it isn't. It has so many more dimensions than that. There is timbre and texture, harmony, techniques, vibrato, register, tone color, phrasing, dynamics, breathing control, air source / breathing style, intonation, and even mental visualization. To just say that people like 1D suck because they may or may not use pitch correction is completely ignorant.
Trust me, you can auto tune anything so long as your technician is good enough. He just has to work FAST. Or, there are certain things you can do to process sound from certain things in certain ways and so on. Don't ask me to go into it, I explain best using diagrams.
Also, I agree people tend to like a nice raw sound in acoustic tracks, deliberately unsmoothed, however this doesn't stop it being possible and sometimes happening.
But it is also true that one must be at least a half decent singer before auto tune can make you sound good. Otherwise it'll just make you sound quite mediocre.
As far as I am aware there is literally no way to fix a mistake if a singer goes out of key, autotune will do what it does, adjust the pitch to the nearest semitone, which will be incorrect and sound even worse, and for a technician to know it has happened they would have to hear it, so it would have already happened. I've never heard of anyone being able to somehow fix that.
WRONG! All those thing can be fiddled with. It is a truly widespread myth that only pitch can be changed by auto tune.
This is a very polarised argument. One side greatly underestimates auto tune, believing it to be a limited, simple programme, making it fairly uncommon in music.
And the other sees it everywhere, believing that it has removed the need for talent from music.
It's funny how neither walks down the correct path, but both argue the merits of using theirs to reach the proverbial destination.
What? No, literally, that's what autotune is, it's pitch adjustment. Ofcourse everything can technically be fiddled with once you digitize sound but there is no effect that simply creates those things, especially not live. I don't think this is as polarized as you believe, I get that there is technology, and it isn't limited, but people often overestimate it, usually because they have no idea of how singing or music in general actually works. But you can't just take one thing and turn it into something else entirely, not without editing sound at a point-by-point level, which is impossibly stupid. Technology makes stuff sound better but it doesn't create talent, otherwise all singers would sound the same.
Trust me, I may have flunked my music test, big I still know a lot more about music than most people. I've watched lots of this stuff be done.
If course, not the live stuff. However I know it's there. Most people DO overestimate auto tune, because they have no experience of the details of music. However you have a lot of experience in the details but very little in the realms of professional music editing, and so you underestimate it. It's easier than you'd think to master.
I wouldn't say very little, not as much as some people perhaps, but still a fair bit. And auto tune literally corrects pitch on a step by step basis, that's all it does. It is also possible to add "depth" to a voice, usually with some simple panning, slight delay, and/or echo, but that is about it. I don't believe there is anyway to actually modify the sound source itself so that it sounds like the singer is breathing differently, unless there is and I just don't know about it. But like you said that sort of thing cannot be edited live anyway, so it's no justification for saying someone has no talent.
No, it's true, you cannot claim someone lacks talent because they edit their music. It's the basis of all vaguely electric sounding music these days. However, you are sorely mistaken if you think the power of technology is that limited. Sure, you need good base material, but that doesn't mean that the end product won't have been greatly fiddled with.
No I don't doubt that it is fiddled with I am just fairly certain that some effects are natural and have no quantifiable values like pitch and frequency. They are things which are individual to each singer and to even attempt to recreate theme digitally would be a pointless and nearly impossible task, because like you said it would remove the need for talent at all. Why go to all that trouble when you have people who have talent and can sing, it defeats the purpose of editing in the first place. I'm talking about specific things here though, like the difference between a clean note and a grow and a scream and a shout, or the particular timbre of an African-American voice, those are physical techniques which I think you're overlooking or just putting a blanket over when you say technology can edit anything, that's all :/
We are? I didn't think we were haha, absolutely editing is fine, like you said the end product will be greatly edited, and that's cool, it's /usually/ a good thing haha. Agreed. On another note what is your experience anyway? Have you worked in a studio?
*shakes* Well, as you know, I'm Trip. I'm the local barman, among other things. Here! *hands a bottle of Blagland 2023* Best vine of the century, that.
I've gathered that. I'm hoping he'll just become bored with me and leave me alone. It's quite difficult- he nicked my wing earlier, threw a clean hole straight through it.
I'm head spotter for the Scottish sanctuary. I effectively look out potential threats and neutralise them while they're becoming threats before they do any damage. It's a good job, pays well. *opens the door and ushers her in*
I also collect magical nicknacks on the side. So, that's where I got this. *pulls a vial of cloudy grey liquid from behind the bar*
This is one of the most potent healing potions on earth. I once used ingredients equating in value to about half a year's wages making a large cauldron of the stuff. Take it. *hands it to her*
I think I may have scared my gerbils. I could hear them running on the wheel, Loki dies I scream and I just hear one fall right off his wheel, then Loki comes back, not as himself but Odin, and I scream again, and this time I start freaking and staring, then Jane and Thor kiss and I start growling at Jane.
The one time I let my cousin decide to do my hair and make up, I watch the movie which Loki dies, and I become a hysterical wreck. I forget I had makeup on, mascara is running aww hell that was great. Was wonderful.
I swear if Derek pulls something like that in TDOTL I may seriously go swim to Ireland.
I really think I may need help, I think I banged my head onto a wall for a few minutes.
Then my cousins are so odd, we're discussing Comic Con and I say I plan to go as Loki if I go, so my older cousin who is in college thinks I'm going to do fine.
At least my one cousin is writing a book so he tells me how its going, he's funny as hell telling me that he's writing it out of order so I go- Yeah I think Derek did that. And we got on a discussion of how authors destroy feels. It was funny.
Thanks for the lovely comment, man. Exactly what I need to read when I'm feeling crappy. Really. Great knowing that I'm ruining things for people. You make me feel phenomenal about myself, really. Thanks for that. -.-"
I like my name, okay. And it's a way for me to express myself. I should be allowed to have it like this without people complaining. Freedom of expression and all that, y'know.
Oi! Chord! (sorry if this is going to be a but offensive to anybody, just my opinion) Luciana's name is a way of her telling the world who she is, OK? It's her way of expressing herself. In fact, all the names on here are that too. Plus FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. Also we don't get to choose our outside-of-the-blog names, usually. So this is only fair. And is it really that hard to zoom in a little bit? Just saying... If you had a bad day, and this is one way of letting your anger out, please, find another way. I'm sick of hearing people hate on each other and argue. I know none of us are perfect but please, try to accept people's differences and coexist without, y'know, murdering anybody. (again, MY OPINION. OK? I'm not saying this is completely 100% right or whatever.)
I'm just thoroughly annoyed that every time both Dylan and I are online in the same page, he complains about my name and, often, what he says I find really insulting and it's really beginning to get to me. I know I'm not the nicest of people, but it really isn't very nice and it upsets me. :/
So I just googled a whole bunch of first and last names from the sp books and their meanings really suit the characters. Derek really put a lot of thought into it and I guess I've never really put much thought into it before.
Luce- I understand his anger, because yes your name is pretty long and does mess with the page on Apple products and tablets, but it does not give the right to insult you about it. It's your name, and so what? I'm on an iPod 9/10 times and I don't complain that your name does that.. It's who you are, and why should someone insult someone over a name? Should I be insulted because I have my OC's name from SP and the Marvel Universe in one shot? So don't get too upset *hugs* You're still awesome, don't take his anger to heart.
Also, to the people on mobile devices, etc.- there's a button that says "jump to the bottom of the page" which you might try out. It'll allow you to skip all of the scrolling. Either that, or you could zoom all the way out, then zoom back in. Zooming all the way out allows for the travel from the top of the page to the bottom of the page to be quicker.
Or, perhaps, when scrolling, one could swipe his or her thumb from the bottom left side of the screen to the top right, to avoid the moving around of the screen.
In a bad mood thanks to Chord's comment. I thought that I was in love with that man... It seems that I fell for the character instead...
Fuck you, Matt. Don't you ever fucking mess with my friends again. And I honestly don't care if you have a problem with this comment. It's the truth and everyone is thinking it.
Thank you for ruining my birthday.
And consider that Requiem Ball dance to 'Perfect' that I owed you forgotten and thrown away, much like my heart.
If you have a problem with anything I said, email me.
Okay so based on recent event I'm going to swear something. I'm typing it up so people have proof I said this. For the sake of my friends, family and online family I'm going to make an effort to drink more liquids a day.
*jumps in to huggle L* I love your name :) It makes me grin every time I see it
Chord, really? Was that really necessary? I have three(I think) things to say in response to that. 1. 90% of the time I'm here, I'm on my phone(it's an iPhone, if that makes a difference) and L's name doesn't 'ruin' anything on it. 2. Who gave you the right to decide how long someone's name can be? It's her name, not yours, and it's not hurting you, so why do you even care? 3. L's not even the only one with a long name(Flora comes to mind), so why do you have problems with her and not anyone else?
*huggles Death* Happy early birthday! Gosh, you guys are all getting so old!
(This is a really difficult situation . . . :/ It rather reminds me of when my mum's talking to people about her work and she says it's difficult, because the Africans come with different standards of what is acceptable, and so things may seem fine to them but shocking to us or vice versa . . . like, in this situation here, the pack didn't think they were doing anything wrong, so they weren't being bad people. It only seems bad by our standards, because we're not used to it . . . and that raises interesting questions. Is what Mark had done to him wrong? Of course it is. But were the people wrong to do it to him? You might say they should haev realised it wasn't okay, but how would they realise, if they'd been tuaght it was okay from birth? And then how to teach them that it is wrong? . . . I like it as a plot. :P It's complex.)
(Also, that's what I mean. Kids grow up thinking it's fine to use the word 'gay' as an insult - I did, too, because you just think, "oh, there's two meanings for it, and gay people should realise that, I know I would if I were gay", and people have to say things to them, just little words, to teach them that no, it's not okay, and that even though it seems fine to you it can be hurtful. Applies to a lot of things, not just that situation. But yeah . . .
Mark: ~time warp~ -quietly pads back to his packs bodies, head lowered- -licks the muzzle of a larger wolf, whining- -moves to a different one, smaller than Mark, and nudges it- -whimpers and lays down beside it, head on his paws, eyes closed- -lets out a long, heartbroken howl-
*when I was about twelve, you know *I didn't use it, actually, because it just wasn't a word that got into my vocabulary, but it was in the vocabularies of people around me and I thought it was okay *but I'm really rambling and overdefining now
Mark: -whines, licking the muzzle of the wolf, dropping low at his front, asking to play fight, whimpering at the lack of a response, nudging his ear, cheek- -looks to Flick, growling slightly-
That's fine by me, Felix, I can fend for myself, as I said, I am NOT innocent, you just haven't seen me yet... (IF ANYONE HAS ANY IDEAS FOR MY MAGIC DISIPLINE PLEASE CONTACT ME USING THE EMAIL ON MY PROFILE, THANKS!!!)
I have to admit I'm surprised FlickTC allowed that to happen, considering what she went through. Mark has been with them basically his whole life after his parent kicked him out the first night he changed. They might not be the best family but they're all he's had for most of his life. He's only thirteen and his pack has been massacred..it's just..aww. Poor Mark. And they barely control their wolves. They can eventually learn to control it but not their wolves and..that's like killing Sil for attacking when she's changed. She can't control that. She can vaguely control if she changes but not the monster she becomes. Its instinct to attack when she's changed, just like with wolves it's normal for the omega to be attacked and under fed and treated badly but we don't put down packs of wolves because of this.. Yeah.. Poor Mark..)
(You're welcome. -hugs tightly back-to-back I'd continue to describe the land of the lost and the lonely however I highly doubt you want to find out about the activities you can participate in as they are all solo activities.)
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@Trip: I get that you hate inaccuracy. :)
I can empathise a bit there. :P
Also, Floorless lost The X Factor to Diversity, yet they still have WAY more shows. Those guys are everywhere.
@Dragona: Anyone can do that.
They can still sing. -_-
Good bye Dragona!
I'll see you in your nightmares
*smiles sweetly*
Sweet dreams...
Dragona, that's what I was talking about before.
That was hate.
I hope you understand that you ruined my night.
You may think that One Direction are "horrible people" who "only do it for the money", but that band saved my life.
I'm going to go now.
Oh dear . . .
I DON'T EVEN LISTEN TO 1D
*hides from arguing instincts*
*but they're attached to me O_O*
*they're part of me :O*
In producing a song yeah, a lot of people will use some pitch alteration, but they really don't need to because they can sing without it, and "pitch altering" is something you cannot do live. Like I said, they sing live. You can watch it if you want, their singing is far better than your Average Joe. I still agree that there are better musicians and there is a lot of music I find more interesting but 1D have talent, a lot more than most people. They have actual ability to sing, better than most of my favorite bands if we're being honest. Of course I still love those bands for sounding exactly how they sound, but as far as being in key and having a nice timbre and perfect harmonies, 1D are about as good as it gets. I don't like the fact that their genre is pop, but they certainly have talent.
Oh, you certainly do haha. Goodnight Luce :)
Dragona, what bands do you like?
Also, you missed out the rest of my point. If there's one thing I hate more than innacuracy it's having my words when said entirely neutrally doctored to suit an argument.
But please, still answer my question rather than respond to the second point.
@Mara: *hugs*
For the record, me, and most of the people online, don't think that 1D only do it for the money and I don't think they're horrible people.
*hugs*
You saw what happened when we discussed Justin Bieber and you saw what happened when we discussed 1D. That's a difference. :)
*hugs*
I lov eyou. :)
Aww no Mara don't leave!
Also, Mara, you're awesome and I think you should have every right to protect the group that you love, but that was NOT hate. And just flinging that word around cheapens it.
Dragona is expressing a strong opinion, not calling One Direction douchebags and telling them to kill themselves.
@Mara: And, that is hate, but Dragona doesn't get why people mind hate, which is totally, like -
it's like I don't get why people like football.
(Well, I do get it, actually, but that's because I'm me - I don't understand why people would spent so much time watching football matches. :P)
@Trip: You see, if someone said they were douchebags and told them to kill themselves, they would look like idiots and would clearly not be listened to, so it wouldn't hurt. Hate is painless. Reasonable arguments hurt.
Like I said earlier.
*points to comment where I ANALSYED PEOPLE WTF WHERE DID I LERN TO DO THAT*
Also Matex, you are once again greatly underestimating the talent of a good technician. You CAN auto tune in a concert just as effectively as in a studio, it'll just cost you more because it's much more work.
sorry I really wanted to know what this one does ignore me
. . .
Okay, so maybe Dragona's whatsimacalits were strong opinions.
It doesn't matter, either way.
*sighs*
*sorry*
Oh it does nothing.
@Trip, by acoustic I meant live acoustic sets, generally speaking. I think it is fair to include their acoustic recordings though because to my knowledge those don't use any such effect. Or if they do it is only subtle like you said, not noticeable, and majority of what you hear is them actually singing.
But honestly, it isn't possible to just label something as "that uses auto pitch so they have no talent". Auto tune doesn't make someone a good singer, it just changes the pitch of their voice. Bad singing still sounds bad.
@Silente: It hyperlinks!!!!!! :O
*only just worked this out after two and a half years, yo :P*
wordreference.com
. . . Or not . . . :P
@Matex: I agree - if it's good singing, then even if the pitch isn't perfect, it'll sound good.
And if it's bad singing, then even if it's all in tune it'll just sound . . . bad.
I think it's MEANT to hyperlink . . .
It used to turn my words blue . . .
I remember that . . .
I was like "OOH IT CHANGES COLOUR!"
Then it stopped doing that and I was like "Oh. It's broken."
Then I didn't think about it for like a year and a half . . . :O
@star lol er maybe not..hmmm..
http://bloglandawardspart2.blogspot.co.uk
Did it work?
@Silente: No . . . :/
Okay, I need to go to sleep now, I think. :(
Fours!
@Silente: No . . . :/
Okay, I need to go to sleep now, I think. :(
Fours!
Auto tune is pitch correction, it doesn't predict when people are going to make mistakes. If someone sings out of key (which people do, regularly) auto tune won't fix that and no technician can either. They have to be able to sing well in the first place for any kind of pitch correction to actually work, I think that is the point I'm making.
If you click it then it underlines it but otherwise it does nothing...
Exactly. If I just branded all arguments that annoyed me as hate, I would never win a debate. That is why what Dragona is saying is not hate. He has well reasoned- if slightly misinformed -arguments that actually hurt rather than make you sigh with annoyance. And if we just start flinging the word hate around and attacking any kind thing that critisizes 1D by calling it hate, not only by weakening the word but also by making actual victims' experiences seem less important.
Bye Star! Sleep well my bubbly friend! Don't let the poppers pop you!
People tend to assume the only thing singing involves is pitch, and it isn't. It has so many more dimensions than that. There is timbre and texture, harmony, techniques, vibrato, register, tone color, phrasing, dynamics, breathing control, air source / breathing style, intonation, and even mental visualization. To just say that people like 1D suck because they may or may not use pitch correction is completely ignorant.
Trust me, you can auto tune anything so long as your technician is good enough. He just has to work FAST. Or, there are certain things you can do to process sound from certain things in certain ways and so on. Don't ask me to go into it, I explain best using diagrams.
Also, I agree people tend to like a nice raw sound in acoustic tracks, deliberately unsmoothed, however this doesn't stop it being possible and sometimes happening.
But it is also true that one must be at least a half decent singer before auto tune can make you sound good. Otherwise it'll just make you sound quite mediocre.
Goodnight Star!
As far as I am aware there is literally no way to fix a mistake if a singer goes out of key, autotune will do what it does, adjust the pitch to the nearest semitone, which will be incorrect and sound even worse, and for a technician to know it has happened they would have to hear it, so it would have already happened. I've never heard of anyone being able to somehow fix that.
As for acoustic tracks though I agree, yeah.
*still isn't tired*
*but should sleep anyway*
*even though she's wide awake*
*problems and dilemmas*
"quite mediocre" hahahaha, exactly :')
Bye bye Star :3
WRONG! All those thing can be fiddled with. It is a truly widespread myth that only pitch can be changed by auto tune.
This is a very polarised argument. One side greatly underestimates auto tune, believing it to be a limited, simple programme, making it fairly uncommon in music.
And the other sees it everywhere, believing that it has removed the need for talent from music.
It's funny how neither walks down the correct path, but both argue the merits of using theirs to reach the proverbial destination.
Also Dragona, the Beatles had four films. They were bigger than Jesus. Would you say The Beatles were a franchise?
What? No, literally, that's what autotune is, it's pitch adjustment. Ofcourse everything can technically be fiddled with once you digitize sound but there is no effect that simply creates those things, especially not live. I don't think this is as polarized as you believe, I get that there is technology, and it isn't limited, but people often overestimate it, usually because they have no idea of how singing or music in general actually works. But you can't just take one thing and turn it into something else entirely, not without editing sound at a point-by-point level, which is impossibly stupid. Technology makes stuff sound better but it doesn't create talent, otherwise all singers would sound the same.
*decides that she should try to sleep*
Anyway I'm going to go to sleep now. Or try. Or fail. Either way.
*waves*
*go to her treehouse to fall asleep*
*runs back to hug and kiss Matex*
Night darling. Love you.
*looks at Trip*
*walks to the treehouse for the night*
haha okay then, good luck!
*kisses* Love you, sleep well Silente :3
Trust me, I may have flunked my music test, big I still know a lot more about music than most people. I've watched lots of this stuff be done.
If course, not the live stuff. However I know it's there. Most people DO overestimate auto tune, because they have no experience of the details of music. However you have a lot of experience in the details but very little in the realms of professional music editing, and so you underestimate it. It's easier than you'd think to master.
Aw, I don't get a kiss too? :P
Still, would've liked more than a look. Goodnight Vampy!
I wouldn't say very little, not as much as some people perhaps, but still a fair bit. And auto tune literally corrects pitch on a step by step basis, that's all it does. It is also possible to add "depth" to a voice, usually with some simple panning, slight delay, and/or echo, but that is about it. I don't believe there is anyway to actually modify the sound source itself so that it sounds like the singer is breathing differently, unless there is and I just don't know about it. But like you said that sort of thing cannot be edited live anyway, so it's no justification for saying someone has no talent.
No, it's true, you cannot claim someone lacks talent because they edit their music. It's the basis of all vaguely electric sounding music these days. However, you are sorely mistaken if you think the power of technology is that limited. Sure, you need good base material, but that doesn't mean that the end product won't have been greatly fiddled with.
Goodness, is everyone still discussing this?
No I don't doubt that it is fiddled with I am just fairly certain that some effects are natural and have no quantifiable values like pitch and frequency. They are things which are individual to each singer and to even attempt to recreate theme digitally would be a pointless and nearly impossible task, because like you said it would remove the need for talent at all. Why go to all that trouble when you have people who have talent and can sing, it defeats the purpose of editing in the first place. I'm talking about specific things here though, like the difference between a clean note and a grow and a scream and a shout, or the particular timbre of an African-American voice, those are physical techniques which I think you're overlooking or just putting a blanket over when you say technology can edit anything, that's all :/
I think we're just telling eachother the same thing in slightly different manners.
Also, no, Valencia. Now we are discussing the pros and cons of editing music.
Also, have we met?
We are? I didn't think we were haha, absolutely editing is fine, like you said the end product will be greatly edited, and that's cool, it's /usually/ a good thing haha. Agreed. On another note what is your experience anyway? Have you worked in a studio?
(That's curious not condescending by the way :P)
It's been... Hours of music talk, I mean.
No, Trip! Hello, I only came here yesterday. *Shakes his hand firmly*
*nods*
Music talk is good talk. Usually. :)
No, I just have a bunch of semi-amateur friends.
*shakes* Well, as you know, I'm Trip. I'm the local barman, among other things. Here! *hands a bottle of Blagland 2023* Best vine of the century, that.
Plus, I just like KNOWLEDGE. So I just know some stuff about it.
Amen, Matex.
Thanks! *Glances at the bottle* Is it alcoholic, Trip?
It's wine.
Yeah.
It's really good though. It's quite weak actually, it's only about 8%.
Oh fair enough, yeah, KNOWLEDGE, me too hahahaha, contrary to many people these days :/
Yup. I really can't stand stupidity. Especially the kind that lacks common sense more than the kind that lacks IQ.
Oh, well... Thank you, anyway. *Smiles, putting it away in her home, doubting that she'll ever drink it*
Cool. So, what's your current impression of Blogland. Cool, isn't it?
Yes! There are some very ...Interesting people, like the Bubble.
And one person who keeps on trying to ruin me.
Ah, you've gotta love the bubble. Even when you disagree with her she makes you think.
And who on earth is that?
Er, Alastair..
And yes, she's awesome!
Oh yes, my character's sort of arch nemesis.
He has a back of defeating his nemesi actually. He needs a new one, AGAIN. Jesus.
I don't think Jesus is will be willing to become your character's nemesis...
Well I don't plan on becoming your nemesis, if that was what you were aiming for.
Heh, you think you could effectively follow on from Alastair?
Although, Jesus WOULD make a good nemesis. Hmmmm...
Um, perhaps not?
I've been trying to avoid him. He keeps on trying to burn things..
Heheh, sounds like him.
It's wise, you'll never defeat him in a head on confrontation, it requires trickery and wiles.
I've gathered that. I'm hoping he'll just become bored with me and leave me alone. It's quite difficult- he nicked my wing earlier, threw a clean hole straight through it.
Youch. So what's your discipline then? Wing growing?
Discipline? Oh, I don't have magic. I was borne of genetic experimentation.
Oh. Cool, I geuss.
I have some healing things in bar, if you'd like?
Oh! That would be excellent, thank you.
*Hops forward* You own a bar?
Oh yes. I'm many things, I barkeep as a hobby. *leads her up the hill*
A hobby? Well... That's interesting. What about your actual job, then?
I'm head spotter for the Scottish sanctuary. I effectively look out potential threats and neutralise them while they're becoming threats before they do any damage. It's a good job, pays well. *opens the door and ushers her in*
I also collect magical nicknacks on the side. So, that's where I got this. *pulls a vial of cloudy grey liquid from behind the bar*
This is one of the most potent healing potions on earth. I once used ingredients equating in value to about half a year's wages making a large cauldron of the stuff. Take it. *hands it to her*
Oh! Goodness, why thank you, Trip. *She unscrews the top* How much do I owe you?
Well, that vial would cost about oooh…
500,000 pounds or so? So really, don't mention it.
Wow... Okay- thank you for your kindness.
Eh, when you earn a stupid amount of money, you should really use it to help people.
So, *leaps over the counter* what's your poison?
Amen- that's what I do with all the money I don't need.
And, I'm sorry, I don't understand.
omg.
i cant breathe
XD XD XD
omg.
i cant breathe
XD XD XD
WHAT DOES IT FUCKING MEAN, DEREK.
That only destroyed me
I think I may have scared my gerbils. I could hear them running on the wheel, Loki dies I scream and I just hear one fall right off his wheel, then Loki comes back, not as himself but Odin, and I scream again, and this time I start freaking and staring, then Jane and Thor kiss and I start growling at Jane.
The one time I let my cousin decide to do my hair and make up, I watch the movie which Loki dies, and I become a hysterical wreck. I forget I had makeup on, mascara is running aww hell that was great. Was wonderful.
I swear if Derek pulls something like that in TDOTL I may seriously go swim to Ireland.
I really think I may need help, I think I banged my head onto a wall for a few minutes.
Then my cousins are so odd, we're discussing Comic Con and I say I plan to go as Loki if I go, so my older cousin who is in college thinks I'm going to do fine.
At least my one cousin is writing a book so he tells me how its going, he's funny as hell telling me that he's writing it out of order so I go- Yeah I think Derek did that. And we got on a discussion of how authors destroy feels. It was funny.
Another page ruined by Luciana's unecessarily long name.
I wish I could post my other, more meaningful, video ded. But it's too long
:c
Thanks for the lovely comment, man. Exactly what I need to read when I'm feeling crappy. Really. Great knowing that I'm ruining things for people. You make me feel phenomenal about myself, really. Thanks for that. -.-"
I like my name, okay. And it's a way for me to express myself. I should be allowed to have it like this without people complaining. Freedom of expression and all that, y'know.
Oi! Chord!
(sorry if this is going to be a but offensive to anybody, just my opinion)
Luciana's name is a way of her telling the world who she is, OK? It's her way of expressing herself. In fact, all the names on here are that too.
Plus FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
Also we don't get to choose our outside-of-the-blog names, usually. So this is only fair.
And is it really that hard to zoom in a little bit? Just saying...
If you had a bad day, and this is one way of letting your anger out, please, find another way. I'm sick of hearing people hate on each other and argue. I know none of us are perfect but please, try to accept people's differences and coexist without, y'know, murdering anybody.
(again, MY OPINION. OK? I'm not saying this is completely 100% right or whatever.)
Is anybody on?
Hey Emerald. Thanks for that. <3
I'm just thoroughly annoyed that every time both Dylan and I are online in the same page, he complains about my name and, often, what he says I find really insulting and it's really beginning to get to me. I know I'm not the nicest of people, but it really isn't very nice and it upsets me. :/
Welcomes!
*pokes*
And also, as I've found out from a really good friend outside the blog, amount of niceness doesn't affect the amount of amazingness in a person. :)
So I just googled a whole bunch of first and last names from the sp books and their meanings really suit the characters. Derek really put a lot of thought into it and I guess I've never really put much thought into it before.
So I just looked at something and yeah. I just... have to post this:
Snow: mislead or charm (someone) with elaborate and insincere words
Storm: move forcefully and decisively to a specified position in a game or contest.
Berg: a mountain or hill
These are all definitions of the words and the suit me so well because...
Snow: I am great at lying and acting
Storm: I act decisively and with purpose most of the time
Berg: like a mountain, I'm not easily forgotten or moved.
Luce- I understand his anger, because yes your name is pretty long and does mess with the page on Apple products and tablets, but it does not give the right to insult you about it. It's your name, and so what? I'm on an iPod 9/10 times and I don't complain that your name does that.. It's who you are, and why should someone insult someone over a name? Should I be insulted because I have my OC's name from SP and the Marvel Universe in one shot? So don't get too upset *hugs* You're still awesome, don't take his anger to heart.
I find your name lovely, Luce.
Also, to the people on mobile devices, etc.- there's a button that says "jump to the bottom of the page" which you might try out. It'll allow you to skip all of the scrolling. Either that, or you could zoom all the way out, then zoom back in. Zooming all the way out allows for the travel from the top of the page to the bottom of the page to be quicker.
Or, perhaps, when scrolling, one could swipe his or her thumb from the bottom left side of the screen to the top right, to avoid the moving around of the screen.
In any case, I enjoy Luciana's name.
Uh, hey guys.
Sweet sixteen tomorrow.
Yay.
In a bad mood thanks to Chord's comment. I thought that I was in love with that man... It seems that I fell for the character instead...
Fuck you, Matt. Don't you ever fucking mess with my friends again. And I honestly don't care if you have a problem with this comment. It's the truth and everyone is thinking it.
Thank you for ruining my birthday.
And consider that Requiem Ball dance to 'Perfect' that I owed you forgotten and thrown away, much like my heart.
If you have a problem with anything I said, email me.
Also, good night. Bye. Don't expect to hear from me for a while.
Happy almost birthday, Death Rose!
Happy early birthday Rose :) I hope it doesn't snow for yours, it did on mine.
*hugs Rose* I hope your birthday is lovely, and also that you are doing alright out there. :)
...*hugs everybody else too, also hoping you ALL are doing okay. :)*
Okay so based on recent event I'm going to swear something. I'm typing it up so people have proof I said this. For the sake of my friends, family and online family I'm going to make an effort to drink more liquids a day.
*jumps in to huggle L*
I love your name :) It makes me grin every time I see it
Chord, really? Was that really necessary? I have three(I think) things to say in response to that.
1. 90% of the time I'm here, I'm on my phone(it's an iPhone, if that makes a difference) and L's name doesn't 'ruin' anything on it.
2. Who gave you the right to decide how long someone's name can be? It's her name, not yours, and it's not hurting you, so why do you even care?
3. L's not even the only one with a long name(Flora comes to mind), so why do you have problems with her and not anyone else?
*huggles Death* Happy early birthday! Gosh, you guys are all getting so old!
*vanishes*
*ghosting*
Okay I've decided I like this new name of mine.
Wbd, reading a book.
YES SILENTE
*goes off to change mine*
Here we go
There we go. We are now protesting!
New post. :) ^^
... feels like that should've had a !, really.
Like,
New post! :)
idk it just looks better. :P
... *leaves cookies for when the troop comes back around to this post, I guess :)*
*magic cookies*
*which smile at people*
*but not in a creepy way*
*and which won't go stale*
*because magic*
:P
[Sneaks in and eats all the cookies]
[Sneaks out again]
Anyone on?
Somewhat unfortunately....
Is that dusk? or some guy out of Skulduggery pleasant?
Don't believe I've seen such a mature name in my life, Rose.
*
*
James: Hello, Zafira.
CLARENTE CLARENTE CLARENTE CLARENTE CLARENTE
*teleports in and waits for Velvet Shadows, pulling the cloak over her head*
*grins*
I'm waiting....!
*collapses from the pain in my leg and looks up to see the same clearing and the mysterious figure* Poop
Inky? *whimpers*
*stands slowly* I don't suppose you're gonna just let me go now, are you?
Well well, look who showed up earlier.
How convenient.
*Mutters* Now would be a good time to find out my type of magic! Right now! Waiting! Oh, screw it, turns and runs
And now everyone is coming.
I am here)
Test subject...? Oh sweetheart *huggles tighly*
(Here?)
*teleports in front of her*
You're friends aren't here yet.
*grins*
I have some time
INKY, SIL, HELP!
I was a test subject for a time travel experiment. It went wrong and I escaped. My family they... they were killed so I could be taken
(gtg, bye)
Felix: *rides along and sees Velv and figure * what's going on here?
*turns to headbut the figure*
(Byii Ed!)
Awwww baby...that's awful *starts tearing yp*
*falls over, again* Help? *looks at newcomer*
Mark: -paws at the ground, snapping at frogs and whining, whimpering-
-starts running back-
(This is a really difficult situation . . . :/
It rather reminds me of when my mum's talking to people about her work and she says it's difficult, because the Africans come with different standards of what is acceptable, and so things may seem fine to them but shocking to us or vice versa . . . like, in this situation here, the pack didn't think they were doing anything wrong, so they weren't being bad people. It only seems bad by our standards, because we're not used to it . . . and that raises interesting questions. Is what Mark had done to him wrong? Of course it is. But were the people wrong to do it to him? You might say they should haev realised it wasn't okay, but how would they realise, if they'd been tuaght it was okay from birth? And then how to teach them that it is wrong?
. . .
I like it as a plot. :P It's complex.)
Felix: *lioks at the figure* why are you harming an innocent girl ?
*unsheathes his sword, Kirikara *
*runs out inseatch for Mark*
*catches his scent and follows*
Not innocent... *coughs*
(Also, that's what I mean. Kids grow up thinking it's fine to use the word 'gay' as an insult - I did, too, because you just think, "oh, there's two meanings for it, and gay people should realise that, I know I would if I were gay", and people have to say things to them, just little words, to teach them that no, it's not okay, and that even though it seems fine to you it can be hurtful.
Applies to a lot of things, not just that situation. But yeah . . .
. . .
I'm just rambling now.)
Felix: *smirks* I like little girls with a little fight
*when Velvet calls out she sighs*
Next time.
*and she's gone*
Not little... *grumbles*
Mark: ~time warp~
-quietly pads back to his packs bodies, head lowered-
-licks the muzzle of a larger wolf, whining-
-moves to a different one, smaller than Mark, and nudges it-
-whimpers and lays down beside it, head on his paws, eyes closed-
-lets out a long, heartbroken howl-
*when I was about twelve, you know
*I didn't use it, actually, because it just wasn't a word that got into my vocabulary, but it was in the vocabularies of people around me and I thought it was okay
*but I'm really rambling and overdefining now
What does this person have against me?
Felix : *kneels next to her* sureeee
The name is Felix
Velvet, call me Velv or Vel, whichever. My personality makes up for my height. *winks*
Felix: *grins* I see
*sheathes sword and helps her up*
(OMG THAT IS THE BEST QUOTE EVER OMG VELVET I LOVE YOU! I AM STEALING THAT LINE!)
(@Flick is inky gonna show up near Mark or..?)
Mark: -gets up again, still trying to get a response from the other wolves-
*jumps up, forgetting about my leg* *cries out and collapses* (Thanks, Sil, my friends are already so used to it!)
(By the way, who is Flick?)
(Yep)
*finds mark* there you are!
Felix: *catches her* easy now
*murmurs* I wonder if Inks is home
(JUST REALISED I HAVE NO CLUE WHAT MY MAGIC DISCIPLINE IS!!!!!!!)
(Flick is my nickname for inky)
Mark: -whimpers, trying to get a response from an older wolf with a white speckled coat-
-pays no attention to Flick-
*sarcastically mutters* my hero... Wait, you know Inky?
(Thanks, Sil)
*approaches Mark* come on Bach...
Felix: *grins* yep*picks her up* come on
*mutters* Well, it's not exactly like I'm going anywhere else... *points at bloody leg*
Mark: -whines, licking the muzzle of the wolf, dropping low at his front, asking to play fight, whimpering at the lack of a response, nudging his ear, cheek-
-looks to Flick, growling slightly-
Felix: Don't be sarky with me missy
I can easily
Leave you for that person
(I dedicate this page to I'm a celeb
It is bloody brilliant)
*changes into a wolf and stands tall*
Mark: -growls at Flick, hair rising all over his body-
-stands over the old wolf's body, protecting-
*still stands tall and holds ground*
Night everyone, will see you tomorrow!
Mark: -approaches her, growling, trying to get her to back off so he can wake his pack up-
(Kay Velv!)
*still stands calm*
*cjanges into a humab* they are dead
(I have to go to bed now !)
(oh...
Night then..
:(
)
That's fine by me, Felix, I can fend for myself, as I said, I am NOT innocent, you just haven't seen me yet... (IF ANYONE HAS ANY IDEAS FOR MY MAGIC DISIPLINE PLEASE CONTACT ME USING THE EMAIL ON MY PROFILE, THANKS!!!)
(Mark.. </3
I have to admit I'm surprised FlickTC allowed that to happen, considering what she went through. Mark has been with them basically his whole life after his parent kicked him out the first night he changed. They might not be the best family but they're all he's had for most of his life. He's only thirteen and his pack has been massacred..it's just..aww. Poor Mark. And they barely control their wolves. They can eventually learn to control it but not their wolves and..that's like killing Sil for attacking when she's changed. She can't control that. She can vaguely control if she changes but not the monster she becomes. Its instinct to attack when she's changed, just like with wolves it's normal for the omega to be attacked and under fed and treated badly but we don't put down packs of wolves because of this..
Yeah..
Poor Mark..)
(Hello.)
(hey. Welcome to the land of the lost and the lonely.)
(Thank you, Silente. *hugs her tightly*)
(You're welcome. -hugs tightly back-to-back I'd continue to describe the land of the lost and the lonely however I highly doubt you want to find out about the activities you can participate in as they are all solo activities.)
(...I should be asleep...)
(Yes. You should be asleep.)
(You should be asleep too.)
(I am fine.)
(As am I.)
(That may change tomorrow morning.)
(It probably will.)
XD you guys
(Yes, Dugglyn?)
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