(No one needs to copy anyone. Everyone is themself. And an original is always worth more than a copy. Jasnah Kholin said something in one of her books once (which was in one of Brandon Sanderson's books), and it was about women, but I believe in applies to any gender. And she said, "What is a woman's place in this modern world? I rebel against this question, though so many of my peers ask it. The inherent bias in the inquiry seems invisible to so many of them. They consider themselves progressive because they are willing to challenge many of the assumptions of the past. They ignore the greater assumption - that a "place" for women must be defined and set forth to begin with. Half the population myst somehow be reduced to the role arrived at by a single conversation. No matter how broad that role is, it will be - by nature - a reduction from the infinite variety that is womanhood. I say there is no role for women - there is, instead, a role for each woman, and she must make it for herself."
One does not needed to have female guidance or male guidance. One does not need to be guided into their gender. One already /is/ their gender. And whatever their role in life is, then if they are male, that role is a male role, because it is a role that a male can play - because a male is playing it. And the same goes for other genders. There is no right or wrong way to be a gender. So why would one need guidance? How would one possibly need to be guided into the correct way to be their gender, to have to copy others to fit in? They already /are/ that gender, and to copy others is to lose that which is original about themself.
That is how I feel about the whole thing, and I think I feel that fairly strongly. I hope my words worked.)
(makes sense but kids do copy to find themselves ....and it can make things easier that could be uncomfortable for a boy like when he stars maturing and he wants to ask his mum but doesn't want to show her as she has something different or the other way round periods etc for a dad to his daughter etc)
@Kas: Yes. But obviously, if I were speaking to a child, I would do so in rather different words, and I would probably say more like "it's okay to want to imitate those you admire but don't forget about you. :)"
*sighs* I'm not saying ALL COPYING IS BAD AND YOU WILL DIE IF YOU DARE GO NEAR THE SOCIAL NORM. If being in the social norm makes you happy, that's okay. I just want people to know that it's possible to be outside of the social norm and be happy.
In my life experience, it's often the parents who are stressed out about their kids not looking cool enough - the kids don't care so much - and then the parents put so much pressure on them that they have to be cool and fit in or they won't be happy . . . and then obviously the kids listen to that . . . And I just wish the parents just . . . wouldn't.
(Star, they learn by copying people...little girls sometimes wear their mum's shoes and try to put make-up on because they watch their mum doing it. That's also why some mums and daughters have the same fashion sense... And what about periods and stuff? if the mother left or died or something the dad couldn't exactly help his daughter go through that and the daughter would feel awkward about it too. I wasn't saying it in that way, children take after their parents in more ways than one, it's how children learn. And how we learn all throughout life, we learn right and wrong from our mistakes but also the people around us and as children.)
(I'll let my kids be who they want to be and be supportive no matter what they choose as I know it makes them happy and they can find themselves but that doesn't mean I can't offer them guidance.)
He believes Star is is far to over-analytical about anything and everything that has ever caused an argument between any two people/groups at any point in time.
Put simply, he believes she should calm down and stop taking everything so seriously.
(Okay. Okay. Let me get my words in order here. Okay.
Yes, kids need to learn some stuff by copying people. Like how to be nice to people and things. But one thing I believe they don't need to learn is their gender. Because just you are your gender, automatically. So whatever you do within that gender, what you do will be right. So you don't need to copy it to learn it. I don't wear makeup and I don't follow fashion (I'm rather fashion-hopeless) and I don't like shopping (books-shopping, yes, and hanging out with friends, yes, and hanging out with friends includes hanging out with friends in shops, but clothes shopping, I just kind of hide and hope it stays away from me) and I just . . . I tend to fail at doing these things females are supposed to do. But the thing is, that doesn't make me any less female, because despite that, I am female. I don't have to learn how to shop or how to be fashionable or how to wear makeup in order to be a proper female. I already /am/ a proper female. It's not something I ever needed to learn.
Yeah. That's what I think.
Also, you're right that children learn by copying their parents. That's why I'm in favour of having to have a license in order to be a parent, because parenting is soooooooo important . . . my mum's told me in the past that so long as kids are happy at home, they're pretty much happy (serious cases like bullying and things excluded, of course), and it's so true. Online here, if you watch the comments, pretty much the main thing people complain about, and the only serious life issue they have, is their parents. :/)
Let's face it, human beings can be pretty awful creatures, and positive parental influence can be helpful.
You may say that someone doesn't need "help" dealing with their gender (which is not what Gemma was talking about, she was talking about a positive father figure.) but what if someone DOES need help? What if their confidence in their gender could be reinforced by a parental or father figure? Sure, they might not need it, but humans don't really need anything.
(I wasn't saying that star. I said he needed a male guidance. A father figure. So that when he's older he'll have him there to talk to in confidence. It's usually the parents of the same gender to you that gives you "the talk" even though for you to think of your parents doing that, for anyone, is gross. But it's just because if it's your dad, and you're a girl, you don't really feel comfortable talking to him about girl problems...Lucas will mature and when he's a teenager Chi won't know what to do. I don't know about all the different sizes for boys, I don't know what they go through sexually so I can't help my son through that, that would be his father's job.)
Aria: *Smiles* of course you're a person You have feelings...you walk, talk. Just because you're not a LIVE person, doesn't mean you're not one *Hugs him tightly*
True, but plenty of girls, even with a female parent, won't be guided through that sort of thing by them. It depends on a lot more than just the fact that there is another female in the household. That mother could be an lovely parent and person, but as th daughter is a different individual, the relationship between the two might not be one where they talk about that kind of thing, and it's awkward anyway.
I don't think Star is saying that people shouldn't have guidance and shouldn't be encouraged to imitate anybody else. It's more about the importance of understanding that it's OK to be anybody at all. It's more about it being OK to imitate ANYBODY, and it doesn't matter about that person's sex because the /personality/ that you are imitating is more important. And a girl should feel discouraged to look up to a male role model if that's a personality they admire, or vice versa. Your sex should not determine your behaviour any more than your eye colour should. People learn by imitating role models, yes, but why should same sex role models be encouraged more than those of the opposite sex?
And to add to Gemma's last comment, that's because of how a child is raised.
So say a guy is raised by a lesbian couple, that doesn't mean that he'll automatically be uncomfortable with talking to a topic that he'd normally talk to a male about.
Chi: *Starts to tickle Tanya* *Lira and Lucas continue to tickle Silente* Tickle fest! *Glances at protector, wondering who he is, then continues tickling Tanya*
@Protector: Yup. :P I did say this the other day. The is though doesn't it need being taken seriously . . . ? Because I tend to thing it does.
@Keiron: Yes. :)
@Kas: Also yes. :)
Like, yeah, guidance is always nice. But I think that there are more important things in a parent than gender guidance. And I think that due to the varying quality in parents and parenting, parents of the opposite gender to a child are probably not even less likely to be less good at parenting that child.
(Really, if anything, I feel like Chione doesn't believe herself to be good enough, capable enough, to guide her children, to make sure they grow up well, because she can't provide the Lucas with whatever help he might need.
(Because they relate to them, Taia. Most girls when they're younger, if they have a mother, dress up in her mothers clothes or try on their shoes or make their way into their make-up bag. True enough was a strange child and had a toy garage with like 150 plastic toy cars and my gamecube so I don't thin I ever dressed up like my mum or tried on make-up. But I did also have her Barbie dolls and their dresses she kept from when she was a girl. She still has them. She doesn't want to let them go. I also still have a dollhouse that I played with. My little brothers played with it too. So I'm not saying everyone does, I was a bit of a tomboy, still am...)
@Taia: Yeah. :) Thanks. Yeah. That's what I'm saying . . . people can have role models of the opposite sex.
Umm . . . I never got the talk off either of my parents, and I never talk about girl stuff with either of my parents, and if my mum tries to I get very embarrassed and wait for her to go away so I can hide.
That's the thing . . . I don't think he /needs/ male guidance or a father figure. I think it might be nice for hiim to have one, but I'm sure he'd live if he didn't and probably be no worse off.
And to what Kas said, yes, I /was/ making that mental link. I believe lesbian couples can be perfectly competent at raising guys. I also believe some of them can be perfectly incompetent; clearly it depends on the parents in question, as it does with every family.
I think I pretty much am over-analytical, Protector. I'm still rather unsure if this is an asset or a flaw of mine. Probably both.
"And I think that due to the varying quality in parents and parenting, parents of the opposite gender to a child are probably not even less likely to be less good at parenting that child."
@Protector: Yeah see the thing is that's my idea of fun.
@Kas: Well, fair enough on that, then.
I . . . personally think being a single parent sounds very hard, either way. :/ I wouldn't ever want to do it myself. (That doesn't mean I look down on single parents; more look up to them. :))
(Yeah guys, I think this needs to stop. You're arguing over something my character said. Baring in mind she just wants her husband to come back. Elleni did the same thing, honestly don't read my RP if you don't agree with what I say or the way I say things, you can easily avoid reading it. I'm not doing this to impress you or to be completely accurate. I write what I want to write.)
I think I meant that um um that parents who are of the opposite gender to the child they're parenting have the minor setback of not being the same gender as that child, yes, but due to all the setbacks a parent could possible have, their gender setback thing probably doesn't make much of a difference in the long scheme of things.
Chi: *Smiles at Tanya and gets off of her, giving up.* *Looks up at Protector and sees him looking at her* *Looks over at the twins getting tickled by Sil then gets up and walks over to him* Hello.
I'm not arguing over the authenticity of your writing, though. I disagreed with your character's statement, and I said why because I thought it was important enough to maybe need saying. :) Have fun writing what you want to write.
*hoists her up high then wades into the lake, towards Claire* *shifts slightly, sitting Beth on her back as she swims towards Claire, keeping Beth dry on her back*
Chi: *Frowns at protector's words and looks at the grave* *Suddenly looks sad remembering what erebus did and tried to do* *Looks at protector again* Do you know what happened, or is that what you want to know?
(Then why are you still here if you were only here for me? Pretend I don't exist, move on... You like rose anyway and she likes you. Why not ask her out?)
*Kisses Aria back* Puts me in a class of my own, not going to find many important skeletons that can speak that is. *grins rubbing his head against her hair *
(Taia I wasn't trying to be mean or anything...you were just expressing your opinions...there is nothing wrong with that...)
Chi: *She sighs* What I thought was Blake...he died...He was trying to close the seals of Erebus but one too many broke and he took him over and he died... I don't know how...when I got to the cave he was laying on the floor drenched in his own blood...I-I tried to die along with him...I got saved, but he couldn't be....he was too far gone...I stayed with him for a while and tried to drag him back to the house. I was distraught...I broke down, I was depressed for weeks, Silente helped me through it... Afterwards we found out it was erebus, he came back pretending to be blake. Someone had blown up our house and everyone was inside at the time. Erebus brought me back to life to rule by his side. But I obviously had to bring back my children... *glances at the twins* And my brother, and our other friends...He didn't like that... Then he tried to kidnap someone or so I was told and he was sealed away in a magic dagger. That's all I know. My husband is back, but he left us...
(I don't see why. You said you wanted someone who could return your feelings, are you blind? you must have been...and must be. You like each other and obviously care for each other. You protect each other and are always there for each other, so why not give it a shot? it's better than sitting in your room all alone, John.)
(Okay. That makes one word more sense. Why are sandwiches mentioned?)
Don't worry Beth. I won't let you fall in. *thinks for a moment then activates her wings, making them form either side of Beth to keep her from falling* The Saboteur sounds good.
(because he should eat them like it's a sandwich :P )
*Nuzzles her nose* You are the amazing one, making such a quick recovery -for now i dunno- from whatever that was. *looks puzzled, decides to kiss her again*
Chi: Oh. So you were created to defeat Erebus...? I don't know much about him...Blake never really likes talking about him. Blake wanted more power so he cast a spell to have Erebus inside of him, to become a part of him. But Erebus became too strong. He took him over more regularly towards the end....it because harder to bring him back to me... *She has tears in her eyes* One time he injured me so badly that I lost an arm and a leg... But all I had to do was sing our song to bring him back...
(för om hans mun är full då jag inte behöver lyssna på hans stön om min härliga Gemmy, bör han bara gå vidare med ros de arbetar så bra tillsammans ughh)
Sil: *murders Chi's kids as a sacrafice to the llama overlords to see if it gets a reaction* *has arms up, happy llama* *arms down, sad llama* *arms flailing, mentally deranged llama* *makes a super man pose, super llama* *pretends to faint, coming to her feet in a roll, drama llama* *puts her arms out to the side, waddling slightly, big fat mama llama* *puts her arms beside her head, fingers spread, moose* *puts her arms at her back as a hump, camel* *sucks her cheeks up and pretends to swim, fish* Oh llama overlords hear my prayers!!!
Chi: YOU KILLED ME CHILDREN BECAUSE I WAS TALKING TO SOMEONE AND IGNORED YOU FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES?! *Spiked armour covers her body, her eyes icey white*
Chi: Lira...lucas... You'll finally get to see your mummy fight your auntie Sil properly. *Lifts them up and makes a little ledge in a tree out of ice for them to sit in and watch* *Creates a massive broadsword* *Glares at Sil and lunges towards her*
Sil: *laughs, rolling to her feet, grinning* Well, that's how YOU remember it. *stands* But I wasn't using this then. *sets on fire, literally* *smirks* Play with fire Chi, if you wanna get burnt.
Sil: thank you. *melts the ice near her feet as it forms* *smiles at Chi* This'll be fun for me. *let's out a battle cry, a circle of fire surrounding Chi and herself* Surrender.
Sil: *grins, hand splayed, the water parting around her* Cool huh? *waves a hand, scalding hot chains shooting out to wind around Chi's wrists and arms*
(Chains? are you just pulling different magic from your ass here or something Jai? at least I have a theme running here. You're just...Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh)
(xD Sil has had over a century to master different techniques Gem! She has whatever has helped her over the years. And last I checked my a*se has no magic in it.)
Maybe you just have a name in mind but can't find it?
(I'll brb. I have trouble drinking enough at school and every day basically. So I only have like one drink a day or none sometimes so I need to go get lots more to drink. So yeah, be back soon.)
Jaimie didn't intend Sil to know so many, though. She didn't think vampires had magic for months on end and designed Sil as such before Derek confirmed they did.
I would rather like to think that my characters tend to be somewhat balanced? As in, for every power they have, there is a downfall to it or a flaw in their personality which means they are unable to use it to its full potential. Take Bethany, for example. She is an angel, so very powerful anyway - but she also has her own, tiny realm - so gains power from that, also. However, she is allergic death and darkness, and extremely clumsy.)
Claire: *she walks beside her* Do you know how I'm doing this?
(Oh. I vanished on a not-so-good note, before. Had to go eat and be social. I didn't mean to be... Idk. I don't like the way that looked?
I didn't take you as being mean, Chi. My apology was kind of because I spent a while writing a long thing, and then realised that I was ranting and arguing, and I didn't want to do that. And I didn't think through very well that nobody actually saw that rant so it probably didn't make sense in that way to anybody who was not me? So, um, yeah. Idk. It's cool? :) )
I dedicate to Fabi. Because she's fabulous. And she's full of caring and bright ideas. And she's been there a lot and she's great and she matters. :)
... I don't think I ever dedded to individual people before.
I also dedicate to Tia/Kas, because Tia's important and not selfish and not a bad person. Tia's warm and kind and thoughtful and friendly and I really don't have any evidence to go against that. :)
And lastly, I'll dedicate to tripling, because things are more effective when there are three of them.
So... I'm at the Fast 7 double bill and just saw Fast 6 (I never saw it in cinemas but I've seen it on DVD two or three times) and it was pretty good! I liked the flip car, its unique steering really shows on the big screen.
Blogger Ellie Kitty said... Star is over-analytical. That's why I love her so much. There's nothing wrong with contemplating life issues on something a character said. It's called philosophy. That's the whole point of books. There are themes in every book, even fiction like Harry Potter or Skulduggery Pleasant, and they're all about life issues. Protector, please don't tell my friend not to analyze what people say and how society works. That's what makes Star Star. There's nothing she should do. Sorry if that seemed aggressive.
I- yes. Please don't get annoyed at her for analysing something. It didn't sound like she was necessarily singling Gemma out, just her character made her think of. Star does that all the time and I love reading.
I was recalled to life Physically, not mentally My heart is decaying, And Anna squeezes my bones My blood is thin from loss My head spins from my thoughts Melancholy perversely pervades my periphery, Always crying, Always dying, Always, undoubtedly dead.
That bag is enticing again. The pills, the blade. I have been taking five or six sleeping pills per night I'm afraid I can't sleep without them Alone that I am, Im wasting my time, wasting my life.
Erasing myself is my destiny.
One month ago I was called a whore by one on this blog. I was bullied- still- in late February. It tapered in March.
Is this Justice? Is this fair? No.
But why would anyone care? Alike the women in Africa who are raped everyday, the world does not care about things that happen all the time. Humans are desensitized to darkness.
But the ones inside the darkness never forget.
....
Blogland remains with me, in the scars on my wrists, the scars on my hips. All that is here is... Self-pity and conceit.
I'm sorry for seeming like I didn't care. I'm sorry for not being able to say anything. I'm sorry that this badly worded comment isn't able to express exactly how much I care about you.
But please don't think that nobody cares. Because I can guarantee you, a lot of people DO care. You're one of the most wonderful people I have ever (kind of) met, and it would be awful if you died. Honestly.
I don't know what depression feels like, so I'm not going to try and go in that direction. All I'm saying is that people do love you, Noelle.
I am also not trying to make this an "it's affecting me!!!" type of comment, because that invalidates what you're going through, which is pretty damn rude. You're an amazing, kind, compassionate human being and the world would be that much worse without you.
Also, I don't know who called you a whore but trust me, they are wrong. You deserve to have people listen to you, and you have every single right to expect that they'll help you, because you have helped them.
Please don't kill yourself. I'm sorry for not being able to word this properly. But please don't take your life, Noelle.
*stands up* Yep. Home. *activates a portal to the cabins front door*
Onwa: *kisses her gently* Why not? It's easy. *carefully draws Liliana's dagger, putting the handle into her hand, cupping her own hand over Liliana's, smirking*
I care. Maybe, as you said, I don't care enough. I'll never know. How much is enough? If enough is enough to be helpful, then maybe I don't care enough.
This blog has been awful to you. That's an understatment. And that's an understatment too.
The world does care about things that happen all the time. The world just struggles to see things removed from itself. That's the difference to me, anyway. We don't see you as removed from us.
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Wow. Cool.
*pulls Beth to the edge of the water too*
*strips her shoes and socks off, dabbing her foot in*
Mmm.
Onwa: I think you're beautiful.
(No one needs to copy anyone.
Everyone is themself.
And an original is always worth more than a copy.
Jasnah Kholin said something in one of her books once (which was in one of Brandon Sanderson's books), and it was about women, but I believe in applies to any gender. And she said, "What is a woman's place in this modern world? I rebel against this question, though so many of my peers ask it. The inherent bias in the inquiry seems invisible to so many of them. They consider themselves progressive because they are willing to challenge many of the assumptions of the past.
They ignore the greater assumption - that a "place" for women must be defined and set forth to begin with. Half the population myst somehow be reduced to the role arrived at by a single conversation. No matter how broad that role is, it will be - by nature - a reduction from the infinite variety that is womanhood.
I say there is no role for women - there is, instead, a role for each woman, and she must make it for herself."
One does not needed to have female guidance or male guidance. One does not need to be guided into their gender. One already /is/ their gender. And whatever their role in life is, then if they are male, that role is a male role, because it is a role that a male can play - because a male is playing it. And the same goes for other genders.
There is no right or wrong way to be a gender. So why would one need guidance? How would one possibly need to be guided into the correct way to be their gender, to have to copy others to fit in? They already /are/ that gender, and to copy others is to lose that which is original about themself.
That is how I feel about the whole thing, and I think I feel that fairly strongly.
I hope my words worked.)
(I agree, Star.)
Bethany: I... Don't think I'll do that.
Claire: *she walks further out into the lake*
Liliana: About us.
@Star Do you feel this is something parents should tell their children?
*the copy bit
Yeah. It might be a bit cold for you. Hmmm...
*turns her back to Beth*
Jump on.
*grins*
Onwa: what about us?
(makes sense but kids do copy to find themselves ....and it can make things easier that could be uncomfortable for a boy like when he stars maturing and he wants to ask his mum but doesn't want to show her as she has something different or the other way round periods etc for a dad to his daughter etc)
@Sophia: :)
@Kas: Yes. But obviously, if I were speaking to a child, I would do so in rather different words, and I would probably say more like "it's okay to want to imitate those you admire but don't forget about you. :)"
*sighs*
I'm not saying ALL COPYING IS BAD AND YOU WILL DIE IF YOU DARE GO NEAR THE SOCIAL NORM. If being in the social norm makes you happy, that's okay. I just want people to know that it's possible to be outside of the social norm and be happy.
In my life experience, it's often the parents who are stressed out about their kids not looking cool enough - the kids don't care so much - and then the parents put so much pressure on them that they have to be cool and fit in or they won't be happy . . . and then obviously the kids listen to that . . .
And I just wish the parents just . . . wouldn't.
(Star, they learn by copying people...little girls sometimes wear their mum's shoes and try to put make-up on because they watch their mum doing it. That's also why some mums and daughters have the same fashion sense... And what about periods and stuff? if the mother left or died or something the dad couldn't exactly help his daughter go through that and the daughter would feel awkward about it too.
I wasn't saying it in that way, children take after their parents in more ways than one, it's how children learn. And how we learn all throughout life, we learn right and wrong from our mistakes but also the people around us and as children.)
(I'll let my kids be who they want to be and be supportive no matter what they choose as I know it makes them happy and they can find themselves but that doesn't mean I can't offer them guidance.)
(And Kassy it's Chi, not Aria ;))
Chi: *laughs and is tickled but rolls to the side so Tanya can't reach her*
He believes Star is is far to over-analytical about anything and everything that has ever caused an argument between any two people/groups at any point in time.
Put simply, he believes she should calm down and stop taking everything so seriously.
(Okay. Okay. Let me get my words in order here. Okay.
Yes, kids need to learn some stuff by copying people. Like how to be nice to people and things.
But one thing I believe they don't need to learn is their gender.
Because just
you are your gender, automatically.
So whatever you do within that gender, what you do will be right.
So you don't need to copy it to learn it.
I don't wear makeup and I don't follow fashion (I'm rather fashion-hopeless) and I don't like shopping (books-shopping, yes, and hanging out with friends, yes, and hanging out with friends includes hanging out with friends in shops, but clothes shopping, I just kind of hide and hope it stays away from me) and I just . . . I tend to fail at doing these things females are supposed to do. But the thing is, that doesn't make me any less female, because despite that, I am female. I don't have to learn how to shop or how to be fashionable or how to wear makeup in order to be a proper female. I already /am/ a proper female. It's not something I ever needed to learn.
Yeah.
That's what I think.
Also, you're right that children learn by copying their parents. That's why I'm in favour of having to have a license in order to be a parent, because parenting is soooooooo important . . . my mum's told me in the past that so long as kids are happy at home, they're pretty much happy (serious cases like bullying and things excluded, of course), and it's so true. Online here, if you watch the comments, pretty much the main thing people complain about, and the only serious life issue they have, is their parents.
:/)
*only serious life issue they tend to have
And by 'life issue', I mean 'issue in their life', as opposed to 'mental issue'.
Let's face it, human beings can be pretty awful creatures, and positive parental influence can be helpful.
You may say that someone doesn't need "help" dealing with their gender (which is not what Gemma was talking about, she was talking about a positive father figure.) but what if someone DOES need help? What if their confidence in their gender could be reinforced by a parental or father figure? Sure, they might not need it, but humans don't really need anything.
(I wasn't saying that star. I said he needed a male guidance. A father figure. So that when he's older he'll have him there to talk to in confidence.
It's usually the parents of the same gender to you that gives you "the talk" even though for you to think of your parents doing that, for anyone, is gross.
But it's just because if it's your dad, and you're a girl, you don't really feel comfortable talking to him about girl problems...Lucas will mature and when he's a teenager Chi won't know what to do. I don't know about all the different sizes for boys, I don't know what they go through sexually so I can't help my son through that, that would be his father's job.)
@ kas Apart from oxygen and food :P hehe
And a character saying she wishes her son had a father figure is a life issue?
Aria: *Smiles*
of course you're a person You have feelings...you walk, talk. Just because you're not a LIVE person, doesn't mean you're not one
*Hugs him tightly*
True, but plenty of girls, even with a female parent, won't be guided through that sort of thing by them. It depends on a lot more than just the fact that there is another female in the household. That mother could be an lovely parent and person, but as th daughter is a different individual, the relationship between the two might not be one where they talk about that kind of thing, and it's awkward anyway.
I don't think Star is saying that people shouldn't have guidance and shouldn't be encouraged to imitate anybody else. It's more about the importance of understanding that it's OK to be anybody at all.
It's more about it being OK to imitate ANYBODY, and it doesn't matter about that person's sex because the /personality/ that you are imitating is more important.
And a girl should feel discouraged to look up to a male role model if that's a personality they admire, or vice versa.
Your sex should not determine your behaviour any more than your eye colour should. People learn by imitating role models, yes, but why should same sex role models be encouraged more than those of the opposite sex?
And to add to Gemma's last comment, that's because of how a child is raised.
So say a guy is raised by a lesbian couple, that doesn't mean that he'll automatically be uncomfortable with talking to a topic that he'd normally talk to a male about.
It's about how they're raised.
Chi: *Starts to tickle Tanya*
*Lira and Lucas continue to tickle Silente*
Tickle fest!
*Glances at protector, wondering who he is, then continues tickling Tanya*
Which is being far to over-analytical.
@Protector: Yup. :P I did say this the other day.
The is though
doesn't it need being taken seriously . . . ?
Because I tend to thing it does.
@Keiron: Yes. :)
@Kas: Also yes. :)
Like, yeah, guidance is always nice.
But I think that there are more important things in a parent than gender guidance.
And I think that due to the varying quality in parents and parenting, parents of the opposite gender to a child are probably not even less likely to be less good at parenting that child.
*Hugs her tightly* Awww !thankyou for the reassurance *puts his facade up to smile at her* Rather liked VIS but okay *grins*
He waits patiently for the people to stop whatever it is they're doing, staring at the tree and the grave beneath it.
(Really, if anything, I feel like Chione doesn't believe herself to be good enough, capable enough, to guide her children, to make sure they grow up well, because she can't provide the Lucas with whatever help he might need.
So :/)
What I am saying is you turned a simple and innocent sentence into seven paragraphs of arguments on why it was inappropriate.
(Because they relate to them, Taia. Most girls when they're younger, if they have a mother, dress up in her mothers clothes or try on their shoes or make their way into their make-up bag.
True enough was a strange child and had a toy garage with like 150 plastic toy cars and my gamecube so I don't thin I ever dressed up like my mum or tried on make-up. But I did also have her Barbie dolls and their dresses she kept from when she was a girl. She still has them. She doesn't want to let them go. I also still have a dollhouse that I played with. My little brothers played with it too. So I'm not saying everyone does, I was a bit of a tomboy, still am...)
*squeals and laughs*
*tackles the twins, tickling them*
@Taia: Yeah. :) Thanks. Yeah. That's what I'm saying . . . people can have role models of the opposite sex.
Umm . . . I never got the talk off either of my parents, and I never talk about girl stuff with either of my parents, and if my mum tries to I get very embarrassed and wait for her to go away so I can hide.
That's the thing . . . I don't think he /needs/ male guidance or a father figure. I think it might be nice for hiim to have one, but I'm sure he'd live if he didn't and probably be no worse off.
And to what Kas said, yes, I /was/ making that mental link. I believe lesbian couples can be perfectly competent at raising guys. I also believe some of them can be perfectly incompetent; clearly it depends on the parents in question, as it does with every family.
I think I pretty much am over-analytical, Protector. I'm still rather unsure if this is an asset or a flaw of mine. Probably both.
Omg I used the word asset.
"And I think that due to the varying quality in parents and parenting, parents of the opposite gender to a child are probably not even less likely to be less good at parenting that child."
Huh?
When will then be now?
Bethany: ... What for?
Liliana: Are we alright? Are you happy?
Eight.
He continues to simply stare at the grave, waiting for a chance to speak with Chione.
*is tickled*
*does her best "I'm not amused" face*
*grins*
Just trust me?
Onwa: I am happy thank you.
@Protector: Yeah
see
the thing is
that's my idea of fun.
@Kas: Well, fair enough on that, then.
I . . . personally think being a single parent sounds very hard, either way. :/ I wouldn't ever want to do it myself.
(That doesn't mean I look down on single parents; more look up to them. :))
(Yeah guys, I think this needs to stop. You're arguing over something my character said. Baring in mind she just wants her husband to come back.
Elleni did the same thing, honestly don't read my RP if you don't agree with what I say or the way I say things, you can easily avoid reading it. I'm not doing this to impress you or to be completely accurate. I write what I want to write.)
@Kas: What?
I think
I meant
that
um
um
that
parents who are of the opposite gender to the child they're parenting have the minor setback of not being the same gender as that child, yes, but due to all the setbacks a parent could possible have, their gender setback thing probably doesn't make much of a difference in the long scheme of things.
Chi: *Smiles at Tanya and gets off of her, giving up.*
*Looks up at Protector and sees him looking at her*
*Looks over at the twins getting tickled by Sil then gets up and walks over to him*
Hello.
Sil: *smirks down at the twins*
Boo midgets. Trying to tickle me!
Well technically speaking I'm still here.
He decides cutting to the chase would be best, and points to the grave.
Er...re..bus...
Okay, Chi.
I'm not arguing over the authenticity of your writing, though. I disagreed with your character's statement, and I said why because I thought it was important enough to maybe need saying.
:)
Have fun writing what you want to write.
He nods his greetings to Blake.
Bethany: Alright... *she jumps on her back*
Claire: *she whistles to herself, heading towards the centre of the lake*
Liliana: Do you promise?
Also I have to go nowish. :(
*retreats*
(Gtg for a few minutes. Could be longer. See ya!)
Bye, Bubble!
Hello, B.
*hoists her up high then wades into the lake, towards Claire*
*shifts slightly, sitting Beth on her back as she swims towards Claire, keeping Beth dry on her back*
Onwa: Of course.
(No Blake, you're not. You're not there for her.)
Chi: *Frowns at protector's words and looks at the grave*
*Suddenly looks sad remembering what erebus did and tried to do*
*Looks at protector again*
Do you know what happened, or is that what you want to know?
I was never here for a character, I was here for you.
Aria: *Kisses Skully on the lips*
Then you're my VIS.
*Grins and nuzzles against his neck*
(... Sorry. :/)
He stands at attention, if poses were words he'd be saying he was ready to listen.
Bethany: What if it gets really deep...?
Liliana: Alright...
(Then why are you still here if you were only here for me?
Pretend I don't exist, move on...
You like rose anyway and she likes you. Why not ask her out?)
Don't worry. I can swim. I've swam in deeper.
*smiles*
I got you. You won't fall off.
Onwa: *kisses her gently*
*Kisses Aria back* Puts me in a class of my own, not going to find many important skeletons that can speak that is. *grins rubbing his head against her hair *
Because I'm taking my own advice and avoiding relationships. I wouldn't be preaching it to people if I didn't practice it myself.
(jävla helvetet äter fitta smörgåsar -don't translate if you don't like swears - )
(Taia I wasn't trying to be mean or anything...you were just expressing your opinions...there is nothing wrong with that...)
Chi: *She sighs*
What I thought was Blake...he died...He was trying to close the seals of Erebus but one too many broke and he took him over and he died... I don't know how...when I got to the cave he was laying on the floor drenched in his own blood...I-I tried to die along with him...I got saved, but he couldn't be....he was too far gone...I stayed with him for a while and tried to drag him back to the house. I was distraught...I broke down, I was depressed for weeks, Silente helped me through it...
Afterwards we found out it was erebus, he came back pretending to be blake. Someone had blown up our house and everyone was inside at the time. Erebus brought me back to life to rule by his side. But I obviously had to bring back my children...
*glances at the twins*
And my brother, and our other friends...He didn't like that...
Then he tried to kidnap someone or so I was told and he was sealed away in a magic dagger. That's all I know.
My husband is back, but he left us...
He wonders what the point of saying that was.
He tilts his head, he had been hoping for more information on the primordial himself.
(I don't see why. You said you wanted someone who could return your feelings, are you blind? you must have been...and must be. You like each other and obviously care for each other. You protect each other and are always there for each other, so why not give it a shot? it's better than sitting in your room all alone, John.)
(take a t off oops jävla helvete äter fitta smörgåsar)
(That's only because I'm good at insulting people, Jaimie.
*Grins*)
( I actually said that ages ago can't remember if I commented it or not - that you and rose would make a cute couple :P-)
Bethany: It's getting really deep... *she starts to shrink away from the water*
Claire: How about The Saboteur?
Liliana: *she kisses her back* I love you, Onwa.
(So they would.
Keiron we totally think the same xD
*Cuddles tightly*)
...
No, I think you're the blind one. Either that or you just forgot what I told you I actually want.
(it's changing javla to bloody :( not fair google doesn't want to swear ughh )
Aria: You're amazing Skully, of course you have to be in a class all on your own.
*Taps his nose then nuzzles it*
*Grins more*
---------------------------------
Chi: What?
*Tilts her head*
(Okay. That makes one word more sense. Why are sandwiches mentioned?)
Don't worry Beth. I won't let you fall in.
*thinks for a moment then activates her wings, making them form either side of Beth to keep her from falling*
The Saboteur sounds good.
Onwa: I love you too Liliana.
A small click comes from inside his chest
Primary directive = destroy Erebus.
(Jaimie, it means: Fucking hell, eat pussy sandwiches in Swedish.)
Bethany: Thank you.
Claire: ... But is it me? I'm not sure...
Liliana: You are perfect.
(because he should eat them like it's a sandwich :P )
*Nuzzles her nose* You are the amazing one, making such a quick recovery -for now i dunno- from whatever that was. *looks puzzled, decides to kiss her again*
(Ahhhh okay.)
You're welcome.
*smiles*
Hmm.. I think it does suit you.
Onwa: *shakes head*
Hardly.
Chi: Oh. So you were created to defeat Erebus...?
I don't know much about him...Blake never really likes talking about him.
Blake wanted more power so he cast a spell to have Erebus inside of him, to become a part of him. But Erebus became too strong. He took him over more regularly towards the end....it because harder to bring him back to me...
*She has tears in her eyes*
One time he injured me so badly that I lost an arm and a leg...
But all I had to do was sing our song to bring him back...
(för om hans mun är full då jag inte behöver lyssna på hans stön om min härliga Gemmy, bör han bara gå vidare med ros de arbetar så bra tillsammans ughh)
Chi: *Realises she said that in the present tense, as if he was still with her*
*She looks down at the grave and becomes upset*
Sil: *gets up, glancing over at chi*
*chews her lip*
*picks Lira up, taking Lucas' hand*
Come on, let's go make mischief ey?
He nods.
Dagger. Where.
-shes away rn think toilet ... ? she'll brb-
Chi: in his father's library...
I-I forget where it is....
*tries her best to remember, tears threatening to make an appearance*
Claire: I'm not so sure...
Liliana: You are.
(I will be back soon.)
He waits patiently.
I am.
Onwa: Not
Sil: *murders Chi's kids as a sacrafice to the llama overlords to see if it gets a reaction*
*has arms up, happy llama*
*arms down, sad llama*
*arms flailing, mentally deranged llama*
*makes a super man pose, super llama*
*pretends to faint, coming to her feet in a roll, drama llama*
*puts her arms out to the side, waddling slightly, big fat mama llama*
*puts her arms beside her head, fingers spread, moose*
*puts her arms at her back as a hump, camel*
*sucks her cheeks up and pretends to swim, fish*
Oh llama overlords hear my prayers!!!
Chi:...You killed my children...
Sil: FINALLY!!!
*resurrects the twins*
I swear I'm invisible sometimes.
Chi: YOU KILLED ME CHILDREN BECAUSE I WAS TALKING TO SOMEONE AND IGNORED YOU FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES?!
*Spiked armour covers her body, her eyes icey white*
Sil: um.. No. Definitely not.
*hides behind Lira*
Chi: Lira...lucas...
You'll finally get to see your mummy fight your auntie Sil properly.
*Lifts them up and makes a little ledge in a tree out of ice for them to sit in and watch*
*Creates a massive broadsword*
*Glares at Sil and lunges towards her*
Sil: Ah crud!
*grins, laughing and drawing her own sword quickly, bringing it up to clash against hers*
I've missed this. Missed being frenemies!
He contemplates intervening, but it seems it is more of a "play fight".
(-.- what, Elleni?
Say whatever you're going to say.)
Chi: *Smiles* And I missed beating you up.
*Kicks her and she goes flying*
Sil: *laughs, rolling to her feet, grinning*
Well, that's how YOU remember it.
*stands*
But I wasn't using this then.
*sets on fire, literally*
*smirks*
Play with fire Chi, if you wanna get burnt.
Chi: You're such a bitch for developing fire powers...
I'll just not let you near me.
*Uses her sword to bat her away*
He moves quickly enough to be considered instantaneous behind Silente and hoses her down with a fire extinguisher.
Sil: developing? I've had these a long time. I just figured you deserved a chance.
*shrugs*
*enhances her sword with fire, grinning*
Come at me sis.
(I am back.)
Claire: It doesn't feel entirely right...
Liliana: You are.
Sil: *yelps*
Hey!!!
*keeps her flames going, glaring at the protector*
(*cuddles Soph*)
Hmm.. Okay..
Onwa: Not.
*melts Liliana's lips together again, sneakily taking her knife away*
He releases the clamp on the extinguisher and looks at her.
He bows his head in apology and goes back to the the tree, under where the twins are sitting.
Chi: *Laughs as Sil gets sprayed with the fire extinguisher*
*Sends out bursts of water from her hands, aiming at the ground at her feet*
Sil: thank you.
*melts the ice near her feet as it forms*
*smiles at Chi*
This'll be fun for me.
*let's out a battle cry, a circle of fire surrounding Chi and herself*
Surrender.
*cough*That'smyline*cough*
(It was water, not ice. Which would have made a difference but nevermind :P)
Chi: *Water bursts from her body in powerful jets, putting out the water*
Not a chance.
*Sends a mini Tsunami towards Sil*
(Sil: *cough*AndI'mUsingItBwakeyWakey*cough*)
"Putting out the water"
If he had eyebrows he'd be raising one of them.
(*Coughnotanymorecough*)
Sil: *grins, hand splayed, the water parting around her*
Cool huh?
*waves a hand, scalding hot chains shooting out to wind around Chi's wrists and arms*
(Fire* Damn.)
(*cuddles Jaimie back*)
Claire: I don't know why...
Liliana: *she sighs, sitting down*
(Chains? are you just pulling different magic from your ass here or something Jai? at least I have a theme running here. You're just...Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh)
Chi: *Puts up an ice sphere to block the chains*
(xD Sil has had over a century to master different techniques Gem! She has whatever has helped her over the years. And last I checked my a*se has no magic in it.)
Maybe you just have a name in mind but can't find it?
Onwa: *smirks*
Sil: *grins, leaning back*
I thought Zaf was the one who did more weird types of magic since she knows her true name.
-Zaf
(I'll brb. I have trouble drinking enough at school and every day basically. So I only have like one drink a day or none sometimes so I need to go get lots more to drink. So yeah, be back soon.)
*hugs Elleni* Thank you . . .
(Back
Tbh I've lost the mood for RP now...)
*walks away*
-Zaf
He steps up to Silente.
Training sequence activate? Yes/No.
Hi.-Zaf
Sil: *frowns at the Protector*
Training sequence? Nah. Too formal. There there.
*pats his head*
He sincerely doubts she would be able to reach his head, as he stands 6'7" tall.
He steps back and leans against the tree.
*shakes head* Do you have a heart, Protector?
Claire: That's exactly it.
Bethany: Cold...
Liliana: *she places her head in her hands*
He shakes his head.
("some would say it is a corrupt organ":P)
Some would be right.
Oh.. I don't have a way to warm myself up.. um.. maybe it's time we head back?
Onwa: *pulls her close, unsealing her lips*
*flips the dagger, holding it handle out towards Liliana*
Go ahead.
The heart can easily be corrupted, Pleasant.
Well in my defense, I've had that part of ZafTC since I rped a while ago. Over a year or two.
So, its developed into her, so its not an 'excuse'.
-Zaf
Jaimie didn't intend Sil to know so many, though. She didn't think vampires had magic for months on end and designed Sil as such before Derek confirmed they did.
...
Forget I said anything.
And I seriously mean that.
Bethany: Okay... *her wings start to emit heat*
Liliana: *she takes it, sheathing the blade* Thank you.
(I will be back soon.)
*starts swimming back to the shore*
Onwa: *raises an eyebrow*
(Okay Soph..)
BUT I do agree with you, and I think it's a problem . . . when all the characters get powerful, every character has to be as powerful to keep up.
I try and keep it to what I originally had. Snow ice and water
I'm
not
trying
to
attack
anyone
and
I think
everyone
does
their
hardest. ;)
I mean orginally Zaf and Niccolò were the two with true names known.
-Zaf
We aren't insulting anyone, we're civilly talking, that isn't a crime.
-Zaf
Bye
Have a nice life, all of you. :-) :-) :-)
I mixed magics with skully here made him able to set his shadows on fire ... dunno if you can use both at once by why the hell not :P
(I am back.
I would rather like to think that my characters tend to be somewhat balanced? As in, for every power they have, there is a downfall to it or a flaw in their personality which means they are unable to use it to its full potential. Take Bethany, for example. She is an angel, so very powerful anyway - but she also has her own, tiny realm - so gains power from that, also. However, she is allergic death and darkness, and extremely clumsy.)
Claire: *she walks beside her* Do you know how I'm doing this?
Liliana: What?
Telekinesis? Holding yourself up?
Onwa: Not what I meant but that also woke.
*smiles*
Claire: Not exactly, but close. I'm not holding myself up - the water is holding me up.
Liliana: What did you mean?
Huh. That's quite cool really.
*swims to the shore and crawls out*
*lays on her stomach*
Okay.. mind getting off now?
Onwa: Stab me
*shrugs*
(Oh. I vanished on a not-so-good note, before. Had to go eat and be social. I didn't mean to be... Idk. I don't like the way that looked?
I didn't take you as being mean, Chi.
My apology was kind of because I spent a while writing a long thing, and then realised that I was ranting and arguing, and I didn't want to do that.
And I didn't think through very well that nobody actually saw that rant so it probably didn't make sense in that way to anybody who was not me?
So, um, yeah. Idk. It's cool? :) )
(*hugs all*
Y'all are perfect, okay?)
Oh
I did not expect that.
Um.
I dedicate to Fabi.
Because she's fabulous.
And she's full of caring and bright ideas.
And she's been there a lot and she's great and she matters. :)
... I don't think I ever dedded to individual people before.
I also dedicate to Tia/Kas, because Tia's important and not selfish and not a bad person. Tia's warm and kind and thoughtful and friendly and I really don't have any evidence to go against that. :)
And lastly, I'll dedicate to tripling, because things are more effective when there are three of them.
*...feels distinctly like I drove everyone away? o0*
*and also a little bit taking up comment space*
*um*
*leaves cake & rolls out?*
Hello.
@Taia then you need evidence.
@Gem you're a wonderful person and why are you leaving you're too awesome to leave what's wrong? *hugs tightly and nuzzles*
So... I'm at the Fast 7 double bill and just saw Fast 6 (I never saw it in cinemas but I've seen it on DVD two or three times) and it was pretty good! I liked the flip car, its unique steering really shows on the big screen.
Anyways... I have another ten minutes here...
Bye...
*leaves a warm hug for everyone*
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Blogger Ellie Kitty said...
Star is over-analytical. That's why I love her so much. There's nothing wrong with contemplating life issues on something a character said. It's called philosophy. That's the whole point of books. There are themes in every book, even fiction like Harry Potter or Skulduggery Pleasant, and they're all about life issues.
Protector, please don't tell my friend not to analyze what people say and how society works. That's what makes Star Star. There's nothing she should do.
Sorry if that seemed aggressive.
I- yes. Please don't get annoyed at her for analysing something. It didn't sound like she was necessarily singling Gemma out, just her character made her think of. Star does that all the time and I love reading.
Okay that's all.
Hello?
I was recalled to life
Physically, not mentally
My heart is decaying,
And Anna squeezes my bones
My blood is thin from loss
My head spins from my thoughts
Melancholy perversely pervades my periphery,
Always crying,
Always dying,
Always, undoubtedly dead.
That bag is enticing again. The pills, the blade. I have been taking five or six sleeping pills per night
I'm afraid I can't sleep without them
Alone that I am, Im wasting my time, wasting my life.
Erasing myself is my destiny.
One month ago I was called a whore by one on this blog.
I was bullied- still- in late February. It tapered in March.
Is this Justice?
Is this fair?
No.
But why would anyone care?
Alike the women in Africa who are raped everyday, the world does not care about things that happen all the time.
Humans are desensitized to darkness.
But the ones inside the darkness never forget.
....
Blogland remains with me, in the scars on my wrists, the scars on my hips.
All that is here is... Self-pity and conceit.
No one cared enough for me
To make a difference
On my suicide
Noelle-
I'm sorry for seeming like I didn't care. I'm sorry for not being able to say anything. I'm sorry that this badly worded comment isn't able to express exactly how much I care about you.
But please don't think that nobody cares. Because I can guarantee you, a lot of people DO care. You're one of the most wonderful people I have ever (kind of) met, and it would be awful if you died. Honestly.
I don't know what depression feels like, so I'm not going to try and go in that direction. All I'm saying is that people do love you, Noelle.
I am also not trying to make this an "it's affecting me!!!" type of comment, because that invalidates what you're going through, which is pretty damn rude. You're an amazing, kind, compassionate human being and the world would be that much worse without you.
Also, I don't know who called you a whore but trust me, they are wrong. You deserve to have people listen to you, and you have every single right to expect that they'll help you, because you have helped them.
Please don't kill yourself. I'm sorry for not being able to word this properly. But please don't take your life, Noelle.
(Hello.)
Bethany: *she hops off her back*
Claire: *she steps on to land* Home?
Liliana: *she shakes her head*
(*cuddles Soph tightly*)
*stands up*
Yep. Home.
*activates a portal to the cabins front door*
Onwa: *kisses her gently*
Why not? It's easy.
*carefully draws Liliana's dagger, putting the handle into her hand, cupping her own hand over Liliana's, smirking*
(*cuddles her tightly back* Hello, Jaimie.)
Claire: *she immediately steps through*
Bethany: *she takes Silente's hand*
Liliana: No, Onwa.
*smiles, squeezing her hand gently*
Don't hug me until I'm dry. You'll get cold.
*steps through with her*
Onwa: *strokes her fingers gently with a thumb*
Don't be scared.
Bethany: Okay...
Liliana: *she pulls away, dissolving her dagger into blackness*
Right. Claire, Beth, come up with dinner ideas while I dry off.
*walks off to the bedroom*
Onwa: *kisses her forehead gently*
Bethany: Sure...
Liliana: I am not going to stab you.
(I will be back soon.)
*sorts herself out,, using a towel to dry herself*
Onwa: You could. If you wished to.
I care.
Maybe, as you said, I don't care enough.
I'll never know. How much is enough? If enough is enough to be helpful, then maybe I don't care enough.
This blog has been awful to you.
That's an understatment.
And that's an understatment too.
The world does care about things that happen all the time. The world just struggles to see things removed from itself. That's the difference to me, anyway.
We don't see you as removed from us.
(I am back.)
Bethany: What would you like?
Claire: Steak?
Liliana: But I do not wish to.
*puts the towel in a wash basket and puts on dry clothes*
Hmmm..
*rubs her arms and legs a bit, trying to warm up her deathly cold limbs*
Onwa: *smiles, kissing her lightly*
Bethany: That's meat... I can try? But I'll need something else.
Claire: *she nods*
Liliana: *she kisses her back*
*walks back, smiling*
We sorted?
Onwa: Mmm..
Claire: You and I can have steak.
Liliana: Did you want me to stab you?
Okay. What's Beth having?
*smiles, hugging Beth gently*
Onwa: I.. wouldn't have not liked it?
Bethany: *she hugs her back* I... Don't know?
Liliana: I am sorry.
Hmm.. you need something warm..
Onwa: its fine.
I care, Noelle. You're a wonderful person. Please, don't kill yourself.
Hi.
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