Monday, August 19, 2013

Strong Female Characters

My Twitter-wife Holly Smale has brought to the attention of her Twitter-followers, of which I am one, this here magazine article entitled "I Hate Strong Female Characters" — http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2013/08/i-hate-strong-female-characters — and I have to say I agree with it wholeheartedly.

For those of you too time-constricted/lazy to read it, it basically holds up a hand in the classroom and has the temerity to ask "Why are vibrant female characters called strong?" Why are they limited to such a thing? More to the point, however, is why is the word "strong" slung in there at all? If you take away the strong bit, that leaves "female character"— but isn't a female character just as inherently strong as a male character? Why do they need "strong" in there at all?

People say to me all the time "Derek, you're great," and I can't argue with them. They go on to say "I love your black shirt/blue jeans combo" and I nod wisely, agreeing with them but not needing to put it into words. Then they say "It's so cool that your books have strong female characters" and I shrug, and say "Hey, I'm a pretty awesome guy. Now go get me some Skittles."

Valkyrie is a strong female character. As in, she's strong, she's female, and she's a character. But she is not a Strong Female Character. She's not a role model — not really. She's deeply, DEEPLY flawed. Over the course of these eight books, she's done some outstandingly heroic things, but she's also done some downright mean and nasty and selfish things. She's hurt people. She's become arrogant (and not in the cool way that I am).

Here's what Holly has to Twitter-say about the subject:

"Strength" is one dimensional. It's saying "women can be strong like men", NOT "women are flawed, complex, brilliant, weak LIKE MEN."

 I love it when readers don't like Valkyrie. I love it when they actively dislike her for the things she's done and the way she's behaved. But it's like they're surprised. It's like they can't compute. "Okay, wait, so... she saves the world but... but she's cheating on her boyfriend?? How is that POSSIBLE?"

Valkyrie is a character. She's as messed up as any male character I could ever write. That's what makes her real to me.

Having a girl as the protagonist in an action/adventure/horror/fantasy/whatever means things are going to get physical, and you all know how much I love my fight scenes. But having her kick ass is not why she's a good character.

Years ago, I was yapping to my mother about Buffy and Xena and talking about how great it is that we now have these TV shows about such strong female characters. My mother, who admittedly has never watched either show, asked me if these really WERE strong female characters, or if they were merely male characters with boobs.

Having a blonde cheerleader save the world with her martial arts skills doesn't equal feminism, she said. That's a male tactic. How about her saving the day using tactics that aren't all about punching and kicking and killing?

I didn't have an answer for her then. I still don't, even now. There's a whole debate to be had that I'm just not ready for, that I may never be ready for. My mother is a pacifist. I am not. We see the world differently, we operate differently, even though we want the same things. We both want equality and peace. My mother is the sort to talk her way to equality and peace. I'm the sort to talk to the point where I reckon more talk won't do any good, and then smash my way through to an understanding. It is not an enlightened viewpoint I hold. It is a crass, brutish viewpoint — but in a crass, brutish world, I believe my way is the way to go. Mum believes otherwise.

And that's the difference, I think, between us. We live in a world carved by men, where fear and oppression and violence are a part of our lives. I can't even IMAGINE a world sculpted by women, where other values have taken hold. I'm limited in that way. I could try not to be, but I honestly wouldn't know where to start. That's kind of sad, when you think about it. For all my imagination, I can't even imagine that...

... (turns to stare hauntingly out the window).



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Robin Snowscar said...

I am going now. Nice seeing you peeps. Peace

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Bye Robin!

Star Inkbright said...

@Ari: *hugs* Thank you.
You're so nice. How do you do it? D:
You're, like, 150% nice.
WHAT
HOW
I CAN'T EVEN

And, thank you. Oh, did I say that already? Oh. Well, never mind. I is logical to me that I should have said it twice (tries to look like I'm not lying), and MY LOGIC IS UNDENIABLE. :)

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Alexis said...

Bye Robin even though I didnt really meet you!

Octa said...

Bye Robin!

*hugs*

I'm going to head off as well.

I have packing to do.

DFTBA

Alexis said...

Ok bye people leaving!

*jumps up on Adra's swing swinging*

Luciana said...

Bye Robin! *hugs* Love you, gorgeous.

Bye Octa! *hugs*

Ieni Lorarté-Strider said...

You were in Germany, Star? YOU SHOULD HAVE GONE TO BAMBERG BECAUSE BAMBERG IS PERFECT OKAY

Luci, it won't be for nothing: I never do anything for nothing, because I am a lazy piece of s***, which basically means I never do Ienithing if I don't think it's worth it:)
Actually no, I'm not a piece of s***, I smell better than that.

Bye, Robin and Octa!:( *hugs*

Hey, Ari and hello Fabi!! - and bye, Fabi!:( *ninjaeroplanetacklehugs*

Alastair Cruciatus said...

Eh, I'm not really that nice. I just try to be a decent human being. Thanks, though. :)

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Star Inkbright said...

FABIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!

I just collapsed on the floor laughing when I saw you were on. I think this means I missed you! :)

(This morning, I started crying and then laughing when Maraness came on. :P)

Don't feel hurt if I didn't have an emotional reaction for you, btw . . . the whole Coke thingymadooda left me a bit emotionally drained. They've been recharging. Think they're recharged now. :)
See, you can look back at my comments and sort of tell by the tone and what I'm bothering to write how I'm feeling. *nods*

:( FOURS ROBIN!

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Alexis said...

*jumps and grabs Ari hugging her* Stop sounding like Niccolo you decent! *pokes*

Alastair Cruciatus said...

Hi/bye, Fabi! And thank you. You are, too.

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Alexis said...

I'm Alexis of course I'm nice! *pokes Ari with Coco bear* POKEY!

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Alexis how do you feel today? I know your organs were cuasing issues

Ieni Lorarté-Strider said...

Ari - And you are one of the decentest human beings I have ever had the niceness of knowing:) *nods*

How did you get there Star, btw? I hope you didn't have to do a 18 hour ferry/coach journey like me xD
But I had 12 waffles from my German family on the way back so I got through it:)
DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE BEING WOKEN UP AT 2AM AND TOLD TO GO TO PASSPORT CONTROL I WAS ACTUALLY OFFENDED AND I HAD LIKE 10 SECONDS TO GET OUT THE COACH and then we had to wait 2 hours for the next ferry, because we'd missed it anyway.

Alexis said...

I feel fine now Momma! They kinda hurt but its bearable! *giggles*

Alastair Cruciatus said...

Thank you people!

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Alexis said...

At least you thank us! Niccolo is petrified of us being nice!

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Alexis be good

Alexis said...

I AM being good! I want Coco.

Star Inkbright said...

@Ieni: WE WENT BY FERRY TO ROTTERDAMN IN THE NETHERLANDS (Hull has ferries to Rotterdam and Zeebrugge, if I spelt that correctly, so we always go to one of the two), AND THEN DROVE THROUGH HOLLAND TO THE NEAREST GOOD GERMAN CAMPSITE TO IT, BECAUSE YEAH, WE'RE LAZY. XD

I don't know how many hours it was. We stayed overnight on the ferry, like always, and then we wake up (at 6 am local time, because the annoucement wakes you up then. Which was, on the way there, 5 am British time. Urgh), have breakfast (we go to the ferry buffet restaurant place on the way there, and doon't bother on the way back), and then drive. I think we drove nearly all day . . . Idk. It's hard to remember. Oh, wait! My mum estimated the journey would be six hours, but it would have taken shorterthan her estimate, but the tire blew out and we had to get a new one and blah, so I don't know. :P
Some years we have to stay in a hotel halfway and drive for two days straight, but we don't do that now, because it's so tiring for my dad, who drives.
Our campervan can only go fifty miles an hour coz he's thirty-five years old (thirty-six in April), so it takes longer than in a car . . .

Ari.

YOu're awesome.

BUBBLE LOGIC. *glares*

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Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

Missed you, too, Star. And Ieni, it feels like it's been a...while. And I don't know how long a while because I have a horrible sense of time, but a pretty long-ish while, I think. And Lucy! It's been a while since I've seen you as well.

It's been a while since I was really here, actually... :-/

[hugs all]

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Alexis said...

FAAAAABIIIIII FAAAAABIIII

Luciana said...

It's been a while because I was in Florida for a whileeeee. :')

Dau Sketch ~ Aussieminion (minus the funny accent) said...

Fabi! Star! Luci! *hugs*

Alastair Cruciatus said...

Aaaaand time for farm pictures! I'll probably make a blog post with a bunch of the pictures in it later.

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Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

[Agrees with what people said about Ari being awesome]

AALLLEXISSS

Did you enjoy Florida?

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Alexis said...

Omg you in the camo pants thats you Ari?

Dau Sketch ~ Aussieminion (minus the funny accent) said...

Argh I have to sleep now :)
*hugs all*

Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

[hugs Dau]

Farm pictures, cool.

Shouldn't be here...

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Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Night Dau!

I'm Jubilance Glee / Occasional Haiku-er / And a dinosaur said...

Omygosh.. School starts in like 2 weeks so I have to take my funky ADHD medicine 2 weeks earlier so I can get used to it so I'm not all wonky when school starts and it's my first day taking it and I fell all wonky and weird and GAAHHH

I'm Jubilance Glee / Occasional Haiku-er / And a dinosaur said...

*feel


I CAN'T EVEN TYPE PROPERLY

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Ewww meds

I'm Jubilance Glee / Occasional Haiku-er / And a dinosaur said...

I'M LIKE HAPPY AND SLEEPY AND INSANE AT THE SAME TIME AND I FEEL LIKE I'M ON A CLOUD OF FLOATYNESS...

OMG
IS THIS WHAT IT FEEL LIKE TO BE HIGH?!?!


please excuse me... I'm wonky

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Its okay! Jubi tis fine!

Star Inkbright said...

And . . . Okay, I was trying to get to sleep last night, and I'd been reading Mark of Athena in The Heroes of Olympus series, and in it, the Greek and Roman demigods were about to wage war with each other, and whenever they do that it mentally affects the gods, beacuse they have Greek sides and Roman sides, and the war things forces them to conflict with each other.

And it was at multiple times described as like schizophrenia.

And I'm just like WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL.

There are, for your information, three types of schizophrenia (and you can also be undefined, which means you have some symptons from eachtype but not enough of one to be a definate type). And the personlaity-conflict thing doesn't sound like any of them. The gods were perfectly capable of forming coherent sentences. They weren't hallucinating at all. They could move fine. They could show expression fine. They didn't have any delusions that I know of. Zeus WAS being excessively paranoid, but that was because Gaia had been whispering in his ear, so that doesn't count. They didn't have trouble interacting with people (I mean, they were forbidden to, but when they broke the rules . . . ). They didn't have unusual emotional reactions. All they DID do was have two of their aspects in conflict. Three demigods saw Bacchus in Kansas, and one of them (Percy himself) was like "Hey, you're Mr D" (he meant Dionysus), and Bacchus's form flickered and he was like "Stop thinking about me in Greek!"
I'm not an expert on schizophrenia. I haven't looked at a website or reresearched anything since I started reading the book and got annoyed. Anything I wrote above, I wrote referring to memory. Apologies for any errors - I wanted to prove that I don't know this just because I looked it up especially to argue - I knew it already. But what I think Rick Riordan's done is either get muddled up between schizophrenia and multiple-personality disorder (I know even less about multiple-personality disorder, so I'm DEFINITELY not an expert, but I know that people who have it have multiple personalities. That's sort of obvious. So if you think what I'm describing doesn't sound like it, apologies. This does not make me a hypocrite, as I am just referring to the disorder by a rant few people are going to read, and not PUBLISHING a BOOK with those references in), or think "Hey, it's like the gods have a mental disorder. Hmm, what's the name of a mental disorder? Hey, schizophrenia. Right, I'll bang that in." Uh, NO. NOT OKAY! Maybe you should actually LOOK IT UP before you go referring to it???

It seems to me that if you're writing a book in a bestselling series that hundreds of people are going to read . . . you should get your facts straight. He went down in my estimation for that. And I reckon he'll've gone down in otehrs' estimation as well. Shame.

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I'm Jubilance Glee / Occasional Haiku-er / And a dinosaur said...

WONKY WOONKKKKYYY

that's a funny word...

Now I'm laughing at the word wonky..

I feel like one of those patients on anesthetics who are saying the weirdest things because they don't know what they're saying..
and I have no idea what that was supposed to mean..
Ok...

I'M GOOD

and now i gtg...

BYEE!

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

I like that series

Star Inkbright said...

JUBIIIIIIIIIIIIII! :)

You're all floaty? I'M ALL FLOATY! BECAUSE I'M A BUBBLE! AND BUBBLES FLOAT! FLOAT WITH MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! *floats*

The annoying think is, I can't really float very FAST. :P

Hope you get used to the meds. :/

Hunter doesn't believe in medication, but that may have something to do with the fact that he can't take any forms of drugs, so medicine and medication and that kind of doesn't really work on him, so yeah . . .

:( FOURS DAU!

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Alastair Cruciatus said...

Yep! I'm the one in cargo pants! I swear by them! Not literally, but I LOVE CARGO PANTS SO MUCH IT'S NOT EVEN FUNNY. Also, for the record, in stories and roleplay, I'm always wearing cargo pants with a shirt of that same exact style. I have a lot of them in different colors. :)

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Alastair Cruciatus said...

Sorry for the super late comment... -_-

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Alastair Cruciatus said...

Hello?

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Fabi S. - Fashion-Conscious Fire Wraith said...

[Hugs]

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Ulcabhán Brave said...

Alexis, we are just going to the ball as friends, right?

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

ARI!!!' Okay i hope you didnt go sorry I got distracted! So did Niccolo enjoy Iowa?

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Alexis: Yeah if thats what you want then yes Brave

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

I probably missed her :/

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Brb im gonna go take a shower....*le sighs* Stupid iPod being cruel curse you i probably missed Ari

Ulcabhán Brave said...

sorry Alexis i am crap in relationships...

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Alexis: its fine Brave I understand

Star Inkbright said...

Sorry I poofed, real life called.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH I'VE NOW REACHED AUGUST THE TENTH.

YAY! :)

@Fabi and her display name: I will never ignore you.

Unless I'm ignoring everybody else as well.

Or unless ignoring you saves your life or something.

Or somebody else's life.

Or something.

But I think you get the point. *hugs*

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Alastair Cruciatus said...

Stupid internet! *scolds internet* Sorry, very, very distant... To answer your question, Zaf, Niccolò didn't go. He spent the whole week working on his plants.

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Star Inkbright said...

Hunter's house has a garden on the roof, except it generally gets covered in snow and everything dies . . . Sometimes when they move to a place with nice weather people try planting stuff, but then they go back to a snowy place and it all dies, sooo . . .

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Star Inkbright said...

@Ari: You can't have good without bad, so for the internet to be this fabulous and house things like Blogland and YouTube and allow us all to communicate like this, it must occacionally be stupid.
Don't feel sad about how stupid it is. Be glad that it exists at all.
*hugs*

(That probably didn't help, but oh well)

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Alastair Cruciatus said...

Niccolò doesn't have a house. But I have a little cabin in the woods where I research plants and crops.

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Noelle said...

Hey babes!

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Oh! Interesting! Well okay you know I would love to see what he works on...he is very interesting and I kid of am a tad nerdy at points

Star Inkbright said...

Hunter has a teleporting house that is accessed by portal. *smiles*

Niccolo's sensible not to have a house . . .

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Star Inkbright said...

HEY ADRA! :)

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Noelle said...

Hai Staralar!

I'm at lunch

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

I have a home in Manhattan because thats closer to the Sanctuary and also where Alexis attends school. But I don't often go to Manhattan

Skyril A.K.A the Vociferous Chatterer, Loyal Forever and Always, The Ever-Present, the Pluviophile said...

I read half of this blog post, and then gave up because my eyeballs were getting sore from all the rolling.

What I think is, everybody in the world is way too bloody sensitive.

Who cares of female characters are called strong? It basically means that the female character is a leading role. It's not talking about her personality or "comparing her to men," or anything else at all.

If there's a strong female character I dislike, than I say, "The main girl is so annoying and boring and depressing." If there's a strong female character I like, than I say, "The main girl is so funny and courageous and awesome!"

Whoever thinks calling a female character "strong" is insulting or degrading needs to buff up and stop being so bloody touchy.

I'm so tired of "political correctness." For instance, just because I call the mail carrier a "mailman" does not, I repeat, does not indicate that I think mail carriers can only be males.
It's just a word.
It's just a phrase.
And when there's someone in a book who's sex is unknown, yes I do call him "him," because you know what? That's grammatically correct, and if someone gets offended by that, I honestly don't care.

Noelle said...

I have a home here, Greece, Moscow, India, Manhattan and Auckland. *nods*

Noelle said...

I have a home here, Greece, Moscow, India, Manhattan and Auckland. *nods*

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Javier has a home in Pennsylvania actually and his family lives there...

Star Inkbright said...

You know, I was reading a book the other day, and it started describing a house. You know when a house is being described to you, you sort of see the rooms this way or that way until the description tells you otehrwise? Well . . . I started automatically seeing is as like Hunter's house until the description told me otherwise. I think this means that his house is more familiar in my brain than my own house.
I have a sad life.
Hunter's house is a cool house . . . I keep changing things in it, though. :P

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Noelle said...

Oh.
And Estonia, my birth home!

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Javier is out again doing god knows what so I cant ask him about his house but he's taken Alexis on a weekend there

Noelle said...

Oh... *grimaces* You really need to get her to a Doctor... ((Assuming you already have and I just happened to miss this))

Skyril A.K.A the Vociferous Chatterer, Loyal Forever and Always, The Ever-Present, the Pluviophile said...

Hey, Folks. I'm in and out.

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

I will I will! Wherever that child is...

Alexis; I still want Coco!

Alexis come here baby I need to get you to a doctor...Oh someone watch Olivia I dont care who so long as its someone

Noelle said...

Hey Skyril! By the way, *hugs*

Star Inkbright said...

Hunter doesn't have a bedroom, though.

When he sleeps at his house, he keeps sleeping in different rooms and changing the rooms' decoration.

@Skyril: The article makes some very good points, if you read it. However, you also make very good points.
Also, I think it depends partially on your use of the word 'strong'.

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Noelle said...

Ugh. You better not mess this up. If you have forgotten, I'm taking the weight for her and it sin't pleasant.

Ulcabhán Brave said...

I will. *Takes olivia off Zaf and holds her in hands*

Skyril A.K.A the Vociferous Chatterer, Loyal Forever and Always, The Ever-Present, the Pluviophile said...

~hugs Adra~
:] How're you?

@Star
I read about half of that as well... I figured I got the picture well enough to know about what she was going to continue ranting.

Ulcabhán Brave said...

Go. Bring Alexis to a hospital.

Star Inkbright said...

*sifts though comments* *moans* YOU PEOPLE COMMENT SO MUCH.

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Noelle said...

We know, Star.

Zaf, please hurry.

I'm alright. At lunch. Fun times

Star Inkbright said...

@Skyril: Fair enough. :)

Gtg.

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Skyril A.K.A the Vociferous Chatterer, Loyal Forever and Always, The Ever-Present, the Pluviophile said...

See you, Star! ~hugs~

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

I got it Adra *scoops Alexis up and shadow walks to the Sanctuary*

Alexis: Hey!!!

Shh child. *walks to te Medical Bay with her* *talks to the Head Doctor and after a few minutes they look at Alexis*

Doctor: her body isnt rejecting the organs its just Adjusting just give her the other medicine and the pain leaves it should only be another day or so, if anyone can stop pain it'll help her a lot otherwise just keep her on the medicine and leaves. If its not better by Thursday then we may have to go back in and see but it should be fine you know yourself what its like. *doctor leaves and gives Alexis a pain leaf to chew* *we appear back*

Noelle said...

Bye Star! *hugs*

Noelle said...

*Stands there* Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow.

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Bye Star!

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Adra she is chewing a pain leaf it should help...let her take the pai-

Alexis: i feel funny like very...*faints*

Oh dear god...

Noelle said...

Oh dear... *her knees buckle slightly* Ow. Ow. ow OOOOW.

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Adra *gives pain leaf* okay look...give her the pain she may be operated on and you don't need to feel that pain

Ulcabhán Brave said...

Alexis!


Noelle said...

Um. No.

*lies* It's downed down a bit. That was just a side effect of the leaf. It's leveled out.

Ulcabhán Brave said...

WAIT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH ALEXIS AND ADRA!

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Brave..she's I dont know all I know is Alexis is in extreme pain and Adra is kinda taking the pain away for her

Alexis said...

*wakes* ooh stars! *is tasting blood in mouth* am i supposed to taste blood?

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

*takes Alexis back to the Sanctuary and within 30min she's in surgery*

*time jump of like 8hrs*

*comes back collapsing against tree shaking*

Noelle said...

*is curled up in a ball, covering her head* What happened

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

*walks out of the bar*

Oh hey Zaf! What wacky adventures have got you collapsing against trees this time?

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Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Alexis was in surgery Trip. I gt sent back here until she's awake

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Noelle said...

*murmurs* That hurt. A lot. Will she be okay?

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Oh okay then. Would you like a drink?

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Skyril A.K.A the Vociferous Chatterer, Loyal Forever and Always, The Ever-Present, the Pluviophile said...

Does anybody here love peanut butter?? Raise your hand!

Noelle said...

Most peanut butters are awful for you...

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Yes please Trip and yeah Adra she'll be okay wen she wakes up that is

Noelle said...

...Will it keep hurting?

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

What would you like?

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Noelle said...

Right... I just... *falls unconscious*
((I have English class. 80 min. Then I'm out))

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Anything Trip some type of red wine and Adra this time no but she just will feel really really tired for a few days actually she's in the treehouse se was brought back

Skyril A.K.A the Vociferous Chatterer, Loyal Forever and Always, The Ever-Present, the Pluviophile said...

LOL, Adra, I take it that you don't like peanut butter than, huh?

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Bye Adra! 80 minute lessons? That be crazy!

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Ulcabhán Brave said...

GTG BE BACK IN AWHILE

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

I know just what to get you! *picks up Adra* But first, I need to take old sleepy face here to her bed.

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Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Trip its called block scheduling i believe 4 classes a day my school did 90min

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Bye Brave and okay Trip

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

See ya Brave!

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Unknown said...

*comes downstairs slightly shocked and sits by Zaf* Alexis is awake in her room. Thank god the upside to magical science is she can go home...*shakes head*

Unknown said...

*comes downstairs slightly shocked and sits by Zaf* Alexis is awake in her room. Thank god the upside to magical science is she can go home...*shakes head*

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

I get eight classes of forty!


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Unknown said...

*comes downstairs slightly shocked and sits by Zaf* Alexis is awake in her room. Thank god the upside to magical science is she can go home...*shakes head*

Skyril A.K.A the Vociferous Chatterer, Loyal Forever and Always, The Ever-Present, the Pluviophile said...

Hiya, Javier!
I'm currently reading Les Miserables, so you... you're the cop. The bad guy in a manner of speaking. lol

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Five in the morning, three in the afternoon, with a 20 minute break between the third and fourth lessons.

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Unknown said...

Zafira has 6 classes a day 56 minutes long now, she gets Enlighs Science Math and History then she picked to take Spanish 3 which lasts three terms then the last term Spnish 3 is replaced by Spanish Culture then she also has every other day for her last class either Chorus PE or Driver's Education, she switches from PE to chorus for 2 terms then for the last 2 terms she does chorus and driveres education

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

*goes and takes Adra to her bed in her lab, then goes to the bar*

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Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

/*quietly sits*

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

*face explodes* No science? Re? Geography? Or did she grow out of those subjects? As in, didn't pick them for the future because she got older?

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Unknown said...

The lunch periods are 26min long. basically this is what happens, there are lunches 4,5,6,7,and 8 so your classes during lunch appear to be doubled so if you have period 4 lunch you go from period 3 to lunch then if you have 5th lunch you go to 4th period then go to lunch and go back to the class you had 4th then 6th lunch you go after your fourth period class 7th lunch you go to 6th period then go to lunch and go back to 6th period and 8 th is easy like 4 and 6

Unknown said...

How about i let her log on and copy and paste her schedule so you can see it? ill do that brb

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

*re-emerges with a bottle, pours ZAf a glass*

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Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

I'll stick with my graph timetable thanks.

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Unknown said...

lol sorry that didnt end right ok let me try this to scree shot it its easier

Unknown said...

*nods that ended badky

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Thank you Trip

Unknown said...

okay here this makes more sense

period 1: Biology
period 2: Spanish 3 (first three terms)
period 3 Spanish culture (last term)
period 4: lunch (all year)
period 5/6: World Studies
period 7/8 Algebra 2
period 9: Chorus (all year every other day) PE (first 2 terms days i dont have chorus) Drivers Ed (last two terms the days i would have had PE)

Unknown said...

AHH SPANISH IS 3RD AS WELL ENGLISH IS SECOND

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

World studies?

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Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Well Tony Parson is clearly a complete dick who is out of touch with the youth of today and our interests. The asshole.

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Unknown said...

LOL yeah we get World Studies

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

Sorry, Tony Paraons.

Still hate him.

Boxing won't solve the problems that you perceive my generation has you imbecile!

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Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

What is world studies?

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Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Woah Trip *smirks*

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Uhm the view points of the other countries on certain wars i believe

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

So... What? Learning about other countries, or just their standpoints on things?

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Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Learning about other countries

*nods* i think

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

So it's geography with all the good stuff taken out.

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Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Yeah basically! *nods* Its weird *sighs* Alexis...

Trip Castalan, Lord of The Hobbits, The Fourth Most Popular Folk/Parody Banana Thief In The Land said...

I'm gonna head off. See ya soon!

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Unknown said...

bye Trip!

Noelle said...

Ugh. Seriously.

Maegan Harty said...

Anyone on?

Maegan Harty said...

Oh there is

Unknown said...

i am online

Maegan Harty said...

Yeah people are on.

Hey Javier I don't think we have met. Names Harty, Maegan Harty

Noelle said...

UGH.

*sits up*
What.

Where am-

Oh.

How did I get to my own room?

Unknown said...

Hello Maegan, Javier Fyreheart husband to Zafira Kerias

Adra Trip took you there

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

*sips the wine shaking* woah...

Maegan Harty said...

Javier and Zaifira sitting in a tree

K-I-S-S-I-N-G

first comes love then comes marriage and then you know what happens

Noelle said...

Oh. Okay. *blinks, sorely pushing herself off her bed* Hpw the hell did he get in?

Unknown said...

We have two children Alexis and Olivia

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

He just did *sips more wine* Alexis is awake

Maegan Harty said...

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW love

Alexis said...

*lays in room really sleepy* Niccolo....

Noelle said...

*rubs her temples* Ouch... That hurt. The pain must have knocked me out

Maegan Harty said...

GUYS I JUST FOUND OUT THAT MY FRIEND WHO SAID SHE WOULD NEVER READ SKULL DUDE IS ON BOOK 3. WOOO DEREK LANDY I AM GIVING YOU FANS HE BETTER SAY THANKS.I AM PUTTING FOOD ON HIS TABLE!

Maegan Harty said...

WOOO

Maegan Harty said...

Gotta go my interweb friends

Noelle said...

Bye Maegan!

Zanida Laufeydottir Queen of Asgard (Zafira Kerias) said...

Woot i didnt fail te SP quiz horribly

Noelle said...

Woot woot! *lumbers outside* ugh. Sore.
*gets herself a glass of wine, leaving the money out*

I'm Jubilance Glee / Occasional Haiku-er / And a dinosaur said...

HEY HEY HEY I'M NOT ALL WONKY ANYMORE!!!
YAAAYY!! *runs around in circles*

Noelle said...

Um?

I'm Jubilance Glee / Occasional Haiku-er / And a dinosaur said...

*grins*

Alexis said...

whaaaT?

I'm Jubilance Glee / Occasional Haiku-er / And a dinosaur said...

nevermind.. xP


HAAII

Alexis said...

Hi Jubi

Noelle said...

Okay...
*hums*
Zaf, is Alexis still in the treehouse?

Star Inkbright said...

OH MY GOSH, I'M READING THESE COMMENTS FROM AUGUST THE TENTH AND I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT BECAUSE IF I WAS THERE I COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING BUT I WAS ABROAD AND /NO/.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MARANESS DON'T LEAVE! FABIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII WHY YOU SO FADY ALL THE TIME MARANESS . . .

*is crying* WHY.

WHY WASN'T I THERE WHY WASN'T I THERE WHY WASN'T I THERE.

I SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE. D:

Nooooooooooo . . . *hugs Maraness*

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I'm Jubilance Glee / Occasional Haiku-er / And a dinosaur said...

STAR!!! ALEXIS!!!! ADRA!!! *supermegatacklehugsofdoom*



HAAIII!!!!

Alexis said...

i am in the treehouse

I'm Jubilance Glee / Occasional Haiku-er / And a dinosaur said...

Hugs Star* It's ok... She didn't really leave..

Alexis said...

I got firsty!!! Aaaah okay i dedicate this page to uhm....who to ded to....DEREK LANDY because he is so kind despite how I kind of pictured him plus he is so going to be scared by my mother meeting him for the third time, may the odds be ever in his favour!

Noelle said...

*hugs Star* it gets worse...

Ah okay. *nods*

Alexis said...

Come visit me if you want...*hugs Coco bear*

Noelle said...

Crossover
*raises glass* hear hear!

Alexis said...

*grins and curls up in a ball* sleepy...Alexis sleepy but Alexis no sleepy

Noelle said...

*climbs up, sticking only her head through the door*
Hey.
D'ya think that you're well enough to sit on a swing?

Alexis said...

I can! i'm just tired thats all. *gets up going to Adra still clutching Coco bear*

Noelle said...

*looks down the ladder?* need help?

Alexis said...

*nods* not allowed on steps yet so yeah definetly

Noelle said...

*carefully picks her up, bringing her to the swing* So how is my little niece doing?

Alexis said...

Happy! I'm gonna go to the ocean tomorrow (irl i am going to Seaside Heights one last time for the a day) and Daddy is gonna take me in the ocean!

Noelle said...

*pushes her* Really? Well don't overexhert yourself.

Alexis said...

yup! *grins as she gets pushed* I wanna go build a sand castle! cuz they are fun!

Noelle said...

They are, aren't they? Especially when you get to decorate them with seashells and seaweed and things

I'm Jubilance Glee / Occasional Haiku-er / And a dinosaur said...

NOOOO BOBBY!!!!!

Alexis said...

I know! I love sand castles! My friend Amma amd I went by the beach and built one but the Jersey Shore is more fun so we going there

Noelle said...

SUPERNATURAL???

Ah. I used to only have a rocky beach when I was younger. But since then I have been everywhere!

I'm Jubilance Glee / Occasional Haiku-er / And a dinosaur said...

*nods*
BOOOOOBBBBBBBYYYY!!!!! Dx

Noelle said...

I AM SORRY

Star Inkbright said...

I can't say I'll never leave. I could get hit by a car and die tomorrow. My death would force me to leave.

Talking in more likely terms, school work might force me out.

Or maybe something happens, irl, and I don't want to be here because of that.

But a long time ago I promised myself that even if I felt like leaving, I wouldn't. I'm not too good at keeping promises to myseld, because if I break them, there's nobody to mind. However, I'm unwillingly to promise anything to you, in case I break it.

But I don't want to ever leave here voluntarily. If real life forces me out, that's one thing, but I don't want to leave because of a stupid roleplay arguement. I can't do that to you. You're all going to start groaning and facepalming now, because you're sick and tired of me mentioning Hunter, but he always tries to trust Ez. Even if he thinks she's going to let him down, he tries to trust her. And this may sound like a small thing, but try and remember Hunter's schizophrenic. Sometimes when he trusts her, she turns out to be a hallucination, and the hallucination betrays him or turns into a monster and tries to eat him or whatever. PLUS, he gets delusions that people are out to kill him or whatever. So yeah? But he has to trust Ez, because he needs to trust something, and it's good for him to have faith in something.
I'm not saying he always succeeds. It's hard for him, you know? But even when what he thinks is common sense is telling him she's out to kill him (it happens rarely, but rarely is sometimes), he still tells himself no, I have to trust her. And sometimes that feels like she's a caged lion who hasn't been fed for a month, and he's opening the cage and walking in unarmed, and even when she starts ripping his legs off he can't defend himself because he has to trust her. And he has to trust her even when she doesn't think she's real. And it's like she's an invisible teaspoon or something, and he has to act like this nanimate object is his best friend and confide in it and go for it for advice and hang on its every word (even though teaspoons can't speak), and act like taht to everyone he meets, even though he knows tehy'll think he's crazy and will tell him there's nohting there (beacuse invisible teaspoons are invisible).

And so sometimes you wonder why he's reckless or why he doesn't know whether you exist or not, but it's because if his brain's telling him something's dangerous, then half the time it isn't, so there is no danger (it also helps tht he's virtually indestructible), and when he sees people who exist and people who don't, how does he know who are who?

. . . I got a bit carried away there, but the point is . . . Hunter tries to keep at things, even when they seem like a bad idea. If he can do that, then I can easily do it because mine is on a much smaller scale.

Yes?

. . . So, in other words, I'm not leaving.

Yeah . . .

You know, sometimes I go to great lengths explaining something, and then afterwards realise it could have been said in a few or one sentence(s). This is one of those moments. *facepalm*

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